Chiefs Chiefs Are "Begging" To Get Out Of 1st Pick - Page 24

houstonwhodat · 05:02 AM

According to this reporter at SB Nation, the Chiefs are "begging" to get out of the 1st pick in the draft.

April 15th:

"The Kansas City Chiefs earned the top spot in the NFL Draft with their 2-14 record last season, but it seems increasingly likely that they won't be the ones to actually make the first selection: Mike Freeman of CBS writes that the Chiefs are "begging" for the opportunity to move the pick."

"It's no surprise that the Kansas City Chiefs are open to trades for the No. 1 pick. They've already traded for a quarterback in Alex Smith, and the near-consensus best player available, Luke Joeckel, doesn't seem to be inspiring huge amounts of excitement in Kansas City, especially since Branden Albert has been a solid option for them at the position ever since they used their first-round pick on him in 2008. It is a little bit surprising how open they seem to be about it. Andy Reid said the team was open to it all the way back in February, and GM John Dorsey made similar statements a few weeks ago. But that's nothing compared to all the rumors of behind-the-scenes machinations trying to trade the pick. For what it's worth, Dan Kadar of Mocking the Draft said moving the pick was a "dream scenario" when he analyzed the Chiefs' choices in February."

"No team has traded a No. 1 pick since 2004 when the Chargers traded Eli Manning to the Giants, but that was a different scenario, as Manning had publicly stated he wouldn't play for the Chargers. Despite the ultimatum, they were still able to get a good haul for him - the fourth pick in that draft, Phillip Rivers, as well as first and third-round picks in 2005. The Rams were able to get an arm and a leg from the Redskins for the second pick in last year's draft, receiving last year's No. 6 pick and a second-rounder as well as first-round picks in this upcoming draft and in 2014. However, those trades were both for franchise-caliber quarterbacks, something this class has a dearth of."

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/1...ing-trade-down

Saccopoo · 04-15-2013, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Or if he just would have played well in big games maybe things would be different.

Like?:

or

I'm pretty sure that a BCS bowl game against a heavily favored opponent was a "big" game.

**BossChief** · 04-15-2013, 10:02 PM

"There are too many technical flaws, scheme flaws. There are so many different variables, that there are a lot of people all over the place on naming the top four or five guys and who those guys would be."

That's the part I think Dorsey was referencing Geno Smith...Being he comes from a gimmick scheme.

**BossChief** · 04-15-2013, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, people that dedicate their lives to their professions should always obey internet advice over decades of real experiences.

Do you think John Dorsey and the GB Packers were scouting quarterbacks like Geno Smith and other guys from this class?

I bet they didn't send a single scout all year to WV games to watch Geno...

Now, I have little doubts that's why they are high on Dion Jordan...Dorsey probably scouted him for GB during the season and knows a lot about him.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-15-2013, 10:09 PM

They'll take it in the ass on Albert just so they can save some face: "well, we were unable to get a deal going with Brandon, and Luke/Eric certainly possesses the upside you want in a prototype Left Tackle, and herp-a-derp pass me a another slab of ribs/Dorseid
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penbrook · 04-15-2013, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

They'll take it in the ass on Albert just so they can save some face: "well, we were unable to get a deal going with Brandon, and Luke/Eric certainly possesses the upside you want in a prototype Left Tackle, and herp-a-derp pass me a another slab of ribs/Dorseid
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I think the B Albert situation is normal.

The fans and media are making it bigger than what it is. Ryan Clady is doing the same thing but you dont see the media get onto him about it.

mcaj22 · 04-15-2013, 10:16 PM

Denver also isnt a position or being linked to drafting a LT with their first round pick

so theres that

Sorter · 04-15-2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

"There are too many technical flaws, scheme flaws. There are so many different variables, that there are a lot of people all over the place on naming the top four or five guys and who those guys would be."

That's the part I think Dorsey was referencing Geno Smith...Being he comes from a gimmick scheme.

If I see this again, I'm just going to lose it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-15-2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Do you think John Dorsey and the GB Packers were scouting quarterbacks like Geno Smith and other guys from this class?

I bet they didn't send a single scout all year to WV games to watch Geno...

So, the Packers, which many have said are the best team at drafting, at least in the NFC, wouldn't send a single scout to watch the supposed "best" QB in college football?

No offense, but what is your background with NFL teams? Scouting departments? Even college scouting?

In short, your assertion is ludicrous.

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Now, I have little doubts that's why they are high on Dion Jordan...Dorsey probably scouted him for GB during the season and knows a lot about him.

Right...

The Director of College Scouting for the Green Bay Packers only scouted one guy. He ignored QB's, even though the Packers took Brian Brohm a few years ago and took Aaron Rodgers when Favre was still a Franchise QB.

But we're to believe that John Dorsey pushed all that intel aside and focused on "one" guy.

penbrook · 04-15-2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

Denver also isnt a position or being linked to drafting a LT with their first round pick

so theres that

The only reason why we are linked to a Tackle is because of the Albert situation.

keg in kc · 04-15-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, right.

That was a nice way of asking, "future" doc.

JFC, I hope your "bedside manner" improves.

Dane giving advice on bedside manner...

It's the small things that amuse me.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-15-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

I think the B Albert situation is normal.

The fans and media are making it bigger than what it is. Ryan Clady is doing the same thing but you dont see the media get onto him about it.

Yeah, every year, an NFL team franchises their starting left tackle in hopes of trading him, replacing him or moving him inside to guard.

chiefzilla1501 · 04-15-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Do you think John Dorsey and the GB Packers were scouting quarterbacks like Geno Smith and other guys from this class?

I bet they didn't send a single scout all year to WV games to watch Geno...

Now, I have little doubts that's why they are high on Dion Jordan...Dorsey probably scouted him for GB during the season and knows a lot about him.

I think you're reaching here.

mcaj22 · 04-15-2013, 10:20 PM

we are linked to a LT because we are picking first overall, and you can only justify best LT or best QB at #1 really. Nothing to do with Albert.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 04-15-2013, 10:20 PM

FTR, Cockmon's mom is "begging" to swallow my unborn children. Right now!
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keg in kc · 04-15-2013, 10:20 PM

It's highly debatable that you can justify best LT at #1 anymore.

04-15-2013, 12:03 PM
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	Denver also isnt a position or being linked to drafting a LT with their first round pick so theres that
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	we are linked to a LT because we are picking first overall, and you can only justify best LT or best QB at #1 really. Nothing to do with Albert.
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