Dolphins working on a trade for offensive tackle Branden Albert

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 21, 2013, 6:46 PM EDT
Branden Albert AP

The much-discussed potential trade of Branden Albert from the Chiefs to the Dolphins doesn’t appear likely at the price Albert is currently seeking.

Although the Chiefs and Dolphins can probably agree on compensation — the Dolphins sending a second-round pick to Kansas City — the hangup is that Albert wants the kind of money that the Dolphins aren’t willing to spend. Specifically, according to Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, Albert wants between $8 million and $9 million a year on a long-term deal.

In other words, Albert is looking for the same kind of contract that left tackle Jake Long got from the Rams — the very contract the Dolphins wouldn’t give Long, which is why he left Miami for St. Louis.

If the Dolphins weren’t willing to pay Long that kind of money, it’s hard to see why they’d be willing to give up a second-round draft pick for the privilege of paying Albert that kind of money. So the Dolphins may need to look elsewhere for a left tackle. And Albert may have to settle for playing this season for the Chiefs, making $9.8 million, and hitting free agency next year.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

but albert still is consider a franchise player and counts as KC's only franchise guy

Miami already has a franchise guy and can't add another so they can't add Albert unless they sign him to a regular contract.

my understanding anyway

With the new draft schedule it gives teams time to finalize trades such as this between the first and 2nd round.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by philfree

Right but they aren't going to do that if they're taking Joekel. Why?

not sure what you mean

some people are saying the Chiefs might be trading out and are using Miami to drive up interest and/or the price of trading.




all just guessing and rumors

[Dave Lane]

Personally I'm so disgusted by this stupidity that I hope we just pass the pick till round 2 and pick then. I'd rather do that than pick Jeckel or Fisher.

[ct]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

but albert still is consider a franchise player and counts as KC's only franchise guy

Miami already has a franchise guy and can't add another so they can't add Albert unless they sign him to a regular contract.

my understanding anyway

I thought I was pretty sure, and now i'm not sure at all. Wondering where I can clarify one way or the other.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by SNR

I'm sorry, Captain Janeway. But I can't leave... unless you're coming with me...

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

With the new draft schedule it gives teams time to finalize trades such as this between the first and 2nd round.

not sure how it works

I'm pretty sure they have to agree to a new contract with Albert BEFORE finalizing the trade.

Contract talks could break down with Albert in the final hour and then Miami would end up with 2 franchise players.

can't have 2 tags so a new contract must happen at the same time as a trade

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Wonton Prejudice

That's great...true fans still need to eat shit for advocating the pissing away of 1.1.

What do you mean by "pissing away of 1.1". You mean by not reaching like Pioli did with Tyson Jackson and instead taking the consensus BPA (after considering positional value), Joeckel or Fisher?

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by ct

I thought I was pretty sure, and now i'm not sure at all. Wondering where I can clarify one way or the other.

i'm pretty sure that i'm correct in this

teams can only have 1 franchise tag player
That player is on a 'franchise tag' contract until they sign a long term deal

so i assume that if a player is traded while on 1-year franchise tag deal they still are considered a 'tagged' player with their new team.

Since Miami has one already the MUST sign Albert to a new deal before finalizing the trade.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

not sure how it works

I'm pretty sure they have to agree to a new contract with Albert BEFORE finalizing the trade.

Contract talks could break down with Albert in the final hour and then Miami would end up with 2 franchise players.

can't have 2 tags so a new contract must happen at the same time as a trade

I'm sure they already have an agreement that has been agreed to (Miami and Albert).

[Prison Bitch]

It's rather funny: reading other teams' message boards, they're near unanimous on how good Joeckel is. But reading this board? We seem to hate him. It's a huge contrast. Very weird.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

not sure what you mean

some people are saying the Chiefs might be trading out and are using Miami to drive up interest and/or the price of trading.




all just guessing and rumors

It was in regards to this.

Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
In other words, the simplest explanation is that the Chiefs are almost certainly going to take Joeckel, and we're getting flooded with bullshit days before the draft as a smokescreen.

[BigRock]

Originally Posted by BossChief

TBG posted that the draft compensation had to be agreed to for Miami to be able to talk to Alberts agent.

It doesn't have to be agreed to. They can grant permission without a trade in place. And I don't recall him saying that it did have to be in place. I think he was speaking more logically, like "Well, they wouldn't give permission to talk to his agent without the trade being agreed to".

But sure they could. If you're trying to get a player to see that other teams won't pay what he's asking either, that's exactly what you'd do. Isn't that what you hope is happening, and that Dorsey isn't really serious about trading him?

But with all due respect to TBG, no one else anywhere has said the trade has been agreed to.

Originally Posted by BossChief

There is a thread that reports Miami is willing to meet Alberts contract demands. I'm on my phone or I'd link it for you.

Being willing to pay him and "have agreed to a long term deal" are two different things.

Also, the guy (Ian Rapoport) reporting that Miami is willing to pay Albert is being contradicted by everyone else reporting on the story, all of whom say Albert is asking for too much money.

And Rapoport is saying the trade hasn't gone through because KC hasn't agreed to the compensation. So your two examples cancel each other out. They can't both be right.

There's no way they would agree to a trade, let Miami work out a contract with Albert, and then just not announce it because they're hoping for something better. If you're hoping for something better, you don't agree to a trade.

There's also no way Miami works out a trade for Albert, works out a contract, KC doesn't pull the trigger on it, and then Miami suddenly realizes that their staff has A&M connections and, holy shit, we've been working out this trade for Albert and we really should have been working a trade for Joeckel.

I mean, come on.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

It's rather funny: reading other teams' message boards, they're near unanimous on how good Joeckel is. But reading this board? We seem to hate him. It's a huge contrast. Very weird.

They're not the ones who are in danger of picking that fat sack of cum

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

My best guess would be that Miami is stalling. Maybe Miami feels it is best to wait until the draft. If KC takes a tackle at 1.1 maybe Miami feels they are in better bargaining position to insist on the 2b or 3 pick. Maybe a tackle slips and they can move up by giving up less or even draft him themselves.

^ This. I think they are trying to call our bluff. Trading from #12 to #2 or #3 will cost them far less than trading up to #1 especially considering KC knows they are desperate. Miami needs a LT but neither BA, or any LT in this draft is the O-lineman equivalent of an Andrew Luck. Miami will not allow themselves to get raped over the bed in a deal for one. They could try to trade up for Johnson which costs less. We would have in essence drafted a RT #1 and would more than likely not re-franchise BA next year meaning he walks and Miami could make a play for him then if Johnson does not work out.

The value at the top of the draft does not justify giving up a kings ransom to move up as much as some on here hope or wish it does. That and the fact that we are desperate to trade out of 1.1 lessens our bargaining power greatly.

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by SNR

They're not the ones who are in danger of picking that sack of fat cum

Originally Posted by SNR

They're not the ones who are in danger of picking that fat sack of cum

i liked it before the edit