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Old 04-17-2013, 05:39 PM  
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Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price

Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 21, 2013, 6:46 PM EDT
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The much-discussed potential trade of Branden Albert from the Chiefs to the Dolphins doesn’t appear likely at the price Albert is currently seeking.

Although the Chiefs and Dolphins can probably agree on compensation — the Dolphins sending a second-round pick to Kansas City — the hangup is that Albert wants the kind of money that the Dolphins aren’t willing to spend. Specifically, according to Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, Albert wants between $8 million and $9 million a year on a long-term deal.

In other words, Albert is looking for the same kind of contract that left tackle Jake Long got from the Rams — the very contract the Dolphins wouldn’t give Long, which is why he left Miami for St. Louis.

If the Dolphins weren’t willing to pay Long that kind of money, it’s hard to see why they’d be willing to give up a second-round draft pick for the privilege of paying Albert that kind of money. So the Dolphins may need to look elsewhere for a left tackle. And Albert may have to settle for playing this season for the Chiefs, making $9.8 million, and hitting free agency next year.

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Old 04-24-2013, 11:02 AM   #3721
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I agree.

If Kansas City EVER drafts a QB in the first round (maybe when I have grandchildren who want to put my ass in a nursing home), then what they do in drafts immediately following is of little concern to me. They can draft guards in the top 10. Take a few 5-techs. Why the **** not?

Because guess what? That shit doesn't ****ing matter. We have a QB.

And that includes spending draft loot to move up and acquire the best LT in the draft.
Yeah the Jags did that 2 yrs ago. They still need one...)
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:03 AM   #3722
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Yup.

The unfortunate truth is that even the 'vastly improved' 2013 KC Chiefs are probably a 9 win team at best. You go through their week to week schedule and it's really difficult to get them to 10 wins.

And thinks to the efforts of Scooter, we only have a couple of more prime seasons out of our best players. Hali's going to be running on fumes this year, IMO and he's going to be the first to fall off. Charles will go in a couple of years and shortly after than we'll see Flowers falter (CBs with limited athleticism tend to crash sooner). DJ is older than we all realize and while he plays a position with decent longetivity, he's also probably looking at only 2-3 more seasons of high level play.

Folks - we're 3 years away from another rebuild. And the front office appears content with rebuilding around a !@#$ing left tackle.

This is exactly what the 2008 Miami Dolphins did - I mean to the !@#$ing letter. Right down to picking up an injury prone QB with multiple shoulder surgeries and a history of check-down passing.

They had Joey Porter at 31, kicking ass and taking names...for a season. Will Allen put out another damn solid season...and was out of football 3 years later. Ronnie Brown was in the prime of his career at 27, ran strong....and was a backup by 2011. Ayodele had been a solid starter for 5 years at ILB, had an okay season at age 30 for the 'phins and was also gone 3 years later.

All this team has that the 2008 Dolphins didn't is Bowe. That's it. And the 2008 Dolphins played well for a season, ate shit, and are now rebuilding how they should have rebuilt in 2008. In the NFL, you get old fast.

I cannot adequately express how disappointed I am in the path this team has chosen. It's just clearly wrong.
This is unfathomabley depressing.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:03 AM   #3723
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kansas city still holding out hope for a better offer and Miami is holding out hope that an OT might fall to them in the draft.

trade might not happen until during the draft
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:04 AM   #3724
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i had to look at the 2009 draft again...to be reminded we took Magee seventeen spots ahead of Mike Wallace

it's the GM's job to find the talent, and there is always talent if you aren't blinded by need or some 'patriot way' horse shit..
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:05 AM   #3725
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Nope. The 2009 Chiefs had just re-stocked their cupboard and committed to a youth movement the year before. They had a lot of young talent and just needed a couple of good drafts and a QB to pull it all together.

This team doesn't have near the young talent on it that the 2009 Chiefs had. The 2009 Chiefs didn't have the first overall pick (they'd have taken Stafford). The 2009 Chiefs didn't go out and acquire an injury-prone veteran QB.

If you'd have taken the team titles off the rosters/transactions and compared the two, you'd have never suggested that the 2013 Chiefs are running an offseason like the 2009 Chiefs did. The only thing that's the same is the name.

The 2008 Dolphins, OTOH, ran precisely this playbook from precisely this position with almost exactly the same roster construction.

And they were wrong.
No way of fixing it from this draft really. I want a QB at #1 as well, but it doesn't exist.

If we can pick up a M. Barkley at #2 after trading Albert then that is movement in the right direction.

Further, I don't think anyone knows what Dorsey/Reid are gonna do with the #1.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:05 AM   #3726
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Miami has discussed sending 54th pick to Chiefs, but both sides still have to decide definitively whether to pull the trigger.
I'd take it only because we have 2 3rd's. Can package those 2 to move up and get Barkley.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:09 AM   #3727
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Where is Austin predicted to go now? Still the 2nd-3rd?
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:11 AM   #3728
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I'd take it only because we have 2 3rd's. Can package those 2 to move up and get Barkley.
A) Can't trade a comp pick.
B) This entire "Trade up for [fallback quarterback]" thing is just doubling down on stupid.

So instead of using 1.1 on the best developmental QB in the draft and retaining our premier pass-blocking LT, we want to trade our LT, using 1.1 on his replacement and then use our 2nd round PLUS more picks to draft a less talented QB instead?

WHY NOT JUST ****ING TAKE GENO SMITH!?!?!?!

I will be more angry at the Chiefs trading Albert for a pick and then using that pick on a goddamn quarterback than I would've been had they taken a linebacker with it. If they're looking at getting a developmental QB from this draft - take him at 1! Take the best one available and not some watered down fallback position just because you can get him later in the draft. And especially not with the pick you got by trading the person that opened the hole that you used 1.1 to replace! You've managed to downgrade at the developmental QB slot while using more picks and all in the name of replacing a great pass-blocker with a guy that might be good, but history suggests has only about a 50/50 shot of it.

Does anyone else go cross-eyed when they try to process that logic? What ****ing sense does that sequence of events make on any level?

WTF is wrong with some of you people?
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:11 AM   #3729
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Tavon? He's a top 15 easy
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:11 AM   #3730
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:12 AM   #3731
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Where is Austin predicted to go now? Still the 2nd-3rd?
Tayvon Austin? Hell, they're saying he might be a top ten pick; definitely a top twenty.

Or is there another Austin you're thinking of?
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Why would that make it harder to get rid of him? Us drafting Joekel doesn't make Miami need a tackle any less.
But it makes us need him less. In able to be hard in a negotiation you have to be able to walk away. We wouldn't be able to walk away if we had both Albert and Joeckel.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:13 AM   #3733
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Dammit!

I was a hell of a lot happier when I'd just turned my brain off and was living in blissful ignorance over how unbelievably poorly the Chiefs are dealing with this draft.

I'm all sorts of irritated again. Thanks, fellas.
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ESPN is getting a little anxious about the Albert situation, because it'll **** up their prognostications.

Werder was essential like "Y no trade yet?"
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