Life Baby kidnapped from home in KC - Page 25

**Iowanian** · 10-05-2011, 02:30 PM

How is this not a topic of discussion on a KC message board?

Pants · 10-17-2011, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

I used to work at Family Planning and that's the leading cause of abortion actually, second to only "travis henry didn't pull out"

Good point, but I wasn't talking about abortions.

**luv** · 10-17-2011, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Good point, but I wasn't talking about abortions.

Abortion after the fact?

Pants · 10-17-2011, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by luv

Abortion after the fact?

Are you saying the baby wasn't viable? Because that's how abortion is defined. The embryo/fetus has to be removed before it's viable.

/not trying to make this an abortion debate

**luv** · 10-17-2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Are you saying the baby wasn't viable? Because that's how abortion is defined. The embryo/fetus has to be removed before it's viable.

/not trying to make this an abortion debate

Generally speaking, there are people who believe that it's a baby once it's conceived.

Anyway, I was just attempting to make a joke. I didn't know you would take it so literally.

evenfall · 10-17-2011, 08:49 AM

Now this thread has AIDS

otherstar · 10-17-2011, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Mothers do not kill their children to get out of relationships, lol.

Two words: Andrea Yates....sad, but true.

ForeverChiefs58 · 10-17-2011, 08:56 AM

Mother tells 'Today' show she was drunk the night baby Lisa disappeared

In an interview with NBC's Peter Alexander on the "Today" show this morning, the mother of missing 11-month-old Lisa Irwin admitted she was drinking the evening the baby disappeared.

When asked if she had been drinking that night, Deborah Bradley said yes, "enough to be drunk."

Bradley, who was interviewed alongside Lisa's father, Jeremy Irwin, said she thinks she could be arrested because she was the last person to be with Lisa before the disappearance.

"The main fear with that is," she told Alexander, "if they arrest me, people are going to stop looking for her. And then I'll never see her again. And I'll never know what happened."

When asked if there was any way she could have done something to hurt Lisa, she said, "No. No. No. And if I thought there was a chance, I'd say it. ... I don't think that alcohol changes a person enough to do something like that."

Bradley also briefly spoke about the polygraph test that police told her she failed. "They said that I failed when they asked me where she was," Bradley said.

11-month-old Lisa has been the object of intense investigation and search since she disappeared Oct. 4.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/17...#ixzz1b3EG181s

Here is another one with a little more info:

KC mom admits she was drunk when her baby vanished

The mother of a baby who she says was taken from her Kansas City home in the dead of night admitted Monday that she was drunk when the girl disappeared but maintained she did nothing to harm her child.

In a tearful interview on NBC's "Today" show, Deborah Bradley said she believes she will be arrested in the disappearance of Lisa Irwin, who was 10 months old when she was reported missing in the early hours of Oct. 4.

Bradley said she had bought boxed wine and consumed "enough to be drunk" that night, but denied she did anything to hurt Lisa.

"No, no... I don't think alcohol changes a person enough to do something like that," she said.

The mother also changed a key point in her story: She initially told authorities she last checked on Lisa at 10:30 p.m., but she told NBC she actually last saw Lisa when she put her to bed at 6:40 p.m. She gave no explanation for the modified times.

On Sunday, military police from the Missouri National Guard joined FBI agents and officers from several police and sheriff's departments from nearby communities in the search for Lisa in a large wooded area near the family's home.

Bradley and Lisa's father, Jeremy Irwin, have told authorities that he arrived home from a night shift to discover the front door unlocked, the house lights blazing, a window tampered with and the baby gone. Bradley and their two sons were asleep elsewhere in the home.

Authorities have already searched the family's neighborhood, nearby wooded areas, a landfill and abandoned homes. Police have said they have no suspects or major leads.

Bradley said police accused her of killing Lisa and that she believes she will be arrested.

"I was the last one with her," she said. "That's kind of a fear that I have."

She said is scared that her arrest would precipitate an end to the search for her missing baby.

"If they arrest me, people are going to stop looking for her and I'll never know what happened," Bradley said.

She also said her two sons, aged 6 and 8, say they heard noises the night Lisa disappeared, although she doesn't know if they heard noises before they went to sleep or later in the night and she doesn't want them to be involved in the investigation.

"I have not sat down and talked to them about it, specifically to not have to put them through anything else," she said.

On Friday, a $100,000 reward was offered by an anonymous donor for the child's safe return or information leading to a conviction of anyone involved in her disappearance.

ForeverChiefs58 · 10-17-2011, 09:03 AM

That little part that she said she thinks her two boys might know or have more info on noises to compare timelines with...but...she doesn't want to get them involved? WTF?

jspchief · 10-17-2011, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by evenfall

I don't really believe anyone stole the child. There doesn't seem to be anything to suggest that

The vagrant with the dirty diapers seems to at least hint at it.

**Dartgod** · 10-17-2011, 09:11 AM

This certainly explains all the lights being on. My guess is she got drunk enough to pass out, leaving all the lights on and whoever she was drinking with took the baby and walked out the front door.

The tampered with window is just something they did to cover up her tracks.

jspchief · 10-17-2011, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

This certainly explains all the lights being on. My guess is she got drunk enough to pass out, leaving all the lights on and whoever she was drinking with took the baby and walked out the front door.

The tampered with window is just something they did to cover up her tracks.

That's about how its playing out in my head. Maybe she knows who took him. Maybe she was directly involved with the abduction.

At this point I'm holding onto hope that the vagrant has her and she's alive.

Coogs · 10-17-2011, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by evenfall

I don't really believe anyone stole the child. There doesn't seem to be anything to suggest that

I don't think the police think that either. Every search they do indicates they are looking for a body instead of looking for a live child. And it seems highly unlikely if someone would have taken the baby that they would have just taken it to have killed it and left it out in the woods or wherever... the places police have been searching.

The only other scenario that I have never heard discussed is if the baby could walk, and might have wondered off. Our kids could walk at 9 months old, but it has never been mentioned that she could walk. Therfore I am assuming that she could not walk yet, and that this is not a possibility.

Pants · 10-17-2011, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

At this point I'm holding onto hope that the vagrant has her and she's alive.

If the fresh diapies are hers, at least we'll know that she's still alive (or was not very long ago).

Coogs · 10-17-2011, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

This certainly explains all the lights being on. My guess is she got drunk enough to pass out, leaving all the lights on and whoever she was drinking with took the baby and walked out the front door.

The tampered with window is just something they did to cover up her tracks.

Now there is one I had not thought of yet. Didn't realize she might not have been drinking alone. I thought I saw one of the TV news shows that the guy in the store with her was identified as her brother.

Pants · 10-17-2011, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

I don't think the police think that either. Every search they do indicates they are looking for a body instead of looking for a live child. And it seems highly unlikely if someone would have taken the baby that they would have just taken it to have killed it and left it out in the woods or wherever... the places police have been searching.

I don't think that means anything. It's probably done every time to make sure all bases are covered.

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ForeverChiefs58 MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $2715326	Mother tells 'Today' show she was drunk the night baby Lisa disappeared In an interview with NBC's Peter Alexander on the "Today" show this morning, the mother of missing 11-month-old Lisa Irwin admitted she was drinking the evening the baby disappeared. When asked if she had been drinking that night, Deborah Bradley said yes, "enough to be drunk." Bradley, who was interviewed alongside Lisa's father, Jeremy Irwin, said she thinks she could be arrested because she was the last person to be with Lisa before the disappearance. "The main fear with that is," she told Alexander, "if they arrest me, people are going to stop looking for her. And then I'll never see her again. And I'll never know what happened." When asked if there was any way she could have done something to hurt Lisa, she said, "No. No. No. And if I thought there was a chance, I'd say it. ... I don't think that alcohol changes a person enough to do something like that." Bradley also briefly spoke about the polygraph test that police told her she failed. "They said that I failed when they asked me where she was," Bradley said. 11-month-old Lisa has been the object of intense investigation and search since she disappeared Oct. 4. Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/17...#ixzz1b3EG181s Here is another one with a little more info: KC mom admits she was drunk when her baby vanished The mother of a baby who she says was taken from her Kansas City home in the dead of night admitted Monday that she was drunk when the girl disappeared but maintained she did nothing to harm her child. In a tearful interview on NBC's "Today" show, Deborah Bradley said she believes she will be arrested in the disappearance of Lisa Irwin, who was 10 months old when she was reported missing in the early hours of Oct. 4. Bradley said she had bought boxed wine and consumed "enough to be drunk" that night, but denied she did anything to hurt Lisa. "No, no... I don't think alcohol changes a person enough to do something like that," she said. The mother also changed a key point in her story: She initially told authorities she last checked on Lisa at 10:30 p.m., but she told NBC she actually last saw Lisa when she put her to bed at 6:40 p.m. She gave no explanation for the modified times. On Sunday, military police from the Missouri National Guard joined FBI agents and officers from several police and sheriff's departments from nearby communities in the search for Lisa in a large wooded area near the family's home. Bradley and Lisa's father, Jeremy Irwin, have told authorities that he arrived home from a night shift to discover the front door unlocked, the house lights blazing, a window tampered with and the baby gone. Bradley and their two sons were asleep elsewhere in the home. Authorities have already searched the family's neighborhood, nearby wooded areas, a landfill and abandoned homes. Police have said they have no suspects or major leads. Bradley said police accused her of killing Lisa and that she believes she will be arrested. "I was the last one with her," she said. "That's kind of a fear that I have." She said is scared that her arrest would precipitate an end to the search for her missing baby. "If they arrest me, people are going to stop looking for her and I'll never know what happened," Bradley said. She also said her two sons, aged 6 and 8, say they heard noises the night Lisa disappeared, although she doesn't know if they heard noises before they went to sleep or later in the night and she doesn't want them to be involved in the investigation. "I have not sat down and talked to them about it, specifically to not have to put them through anything else," she said. On Friday, a $100,000 reward was offered by an anonymous donor for the child's safe return or information leading to a conviction of anyone involved in her disappearance.
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