I'm going to make a lot of you ill with this thread

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I wanted Geno Smith as much as anyone here. But I'm an it is what it is guy. So I started last night trying to find some kind of bright side to this whole fiasco. I've written the following piece, and am looking forward to being skewered for it.

The Alex Smith Experiment

Let it be known, I was in mourning all day yesterday. I had hitched my wagons so tightly to Geno Smith or some other young, QB stud coming out of this year's draft class that I never could bring myself to believe that the brilliant Andy Reid, and John Dorsey would actually trade for Alex Smith. Then they did. And I was crushed. I whined, complained, and proclaimed I could no longer care about this team. But I was born and raised inside the walls of this Kingdom. I could never pack my bags and walk away.

So I started thinking about what all of this meant. The first thing that came to mind was that it was obvious our new leadership didn't see what I saw in this year's crop of field generals. They agreed with the majority of people out there saying there was very, very little to be excited about out of the QB's entering the NFL this year. It also occurred to me that they must have thought very highly of Alex Smith considering the compensation that is being rumored to be given up for him. And I wondered if all the work we put in with Save Our Chiefs last year was in vein.

I mean, we've seen this movie. Over, and over, and over again. This is the 5th 49er retread this franchise has brought in for us over the last 25 years. And the great Joe Montana was the only one that has provided us with a playoff win. So naturally my thought process was “Here we go again! New Chiefs, same as the old Chiefs!”

Then I started doing my homework and watching the last couple of years of Alex Smith. This is a what have you done for me lately league, so I wasn't really worried about his first few years in the league. Coaching changes year after year, and no real continuity was what greeted him to the league. Jim Harbaugh came in and 2011 Alex Smith made some instant strides. I saw some things out of him that have now convinced me that this time the sequel could be better than the original. Here are some reasons I believe Alex Smith can help lead us to the promised land.

1. Leadership. Probably the most important thing a QB has to have, and something that has lacked in KC for the last couple of years. 2012 was a huge indicator of that. The Chiefs didn't believe in their QB and their play reflected it. On both sides of the ball. Alex Smith didn't have a contract with the 49ers the year of the lockout. Yet it was widely reported he still got his hands on Jim Harbaugh's new playbook and organized practices with his teammates. They rallied around him, and the proof is in the pudding. A muffed punt away from the Super Bowl.

2. Clutch. He has it. Tons of it. The biggest indicator was in his first playoff game. Back and forth, and they fell behind with around a minute left in the game. Alex marched them down the field and on a 3rd and 3 with his team in field goal position, he made his best pass of the entire game to score the game winning TD. On the biggest stage of his life. His coach could've easily played it safe and went for over time, but he believed in Alex. And that belief paid off with a win.

3. Field awareness. I watched a lot of tape. When Alex got loose of the pocket and had to scramble, he knew where the first down marker was. I watched him twist, and turn. Take hits, and deliver hits to get to that first down marker. No fetal position from Alex Smith. He went for it. Consistantly.

4. Progressions. I watched him go through progressions when he needed too. I haven't seen a lot of Alex locking onto a guy and just winging it in there regardless of coverage. That said, I've also seen him wing that ball in between two defenders where only his guy can catch the ball. And there's enough strength in his throws that the ball is there before the defender can respond too it.

5. Coaching. It took an elite coach to get the very best out of Alex Smith. And when he received that, he excelled instantaneously. What better coach, or situation could Alex Smith go to right now and replicate that success? There isn't one. This is it. Coach Reid, and our squad has the talent to put around Alex, and the ability to give him further insight, and tutilege to enhance, and grow his game.

6. Intangibles. This guy has a fire burning inside of him right now. He finally, finally got a head coach who was able to work with him, and he learned the system. He took his team to the brink of the Super Bowl and didn't get there due to no fault of his own. The very moment he was hurt, he was yanked, replaced, and watched his team go to the same spot that he himself probably could've led them too. He's the hungriest man in professional football right now, maybe in all of professional sports. He has something to prove, and he has a chip on his shoulder. And the way he conducted himself throughout that entire process as it unfolded last year was the mark of a leader.

7. History. Time and time again we've seen the stats that 1st round QB's win Super Bowls. We have not only a 1st round QB in Alex, but the very first pick in the draft. This is what we all wanted. Not how we envisioned it, but history is now on our side.

So there you have it. I've gone through mourning, and I've done my homework. I believe in our coach, and our new general manager, and I do not believe this in any way, shape, or form is remniscent of Scott *****, and the moves he made when he came to Kansas City. And I think that is truly our biggest fear. Because this move looks SO closely like the one Scooter made when he came to town, that we are all going to be relegated to that kind of failure over the next half decade.

I just don't think so. I think we have a former number 1 overall pick, that was the consensus number 1 at the time. This isn't a guy who backed up Matt Leinart in college. He played, and he played well. And again, this is a what have you done for me lately league. Alex has grown immensely in the last 2-3 years and has shown he has the ability to make the plays, make the throws, use his legs, and win when the game is on the line.

This is the new face of the franchise. Join me in optimism. Let this Kingdom stand tall, and proud, and root our warriors onto victory. We have our field general. And he's proven recently that he has the ability to lead our troops to victory.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Loyalties? The loyalties should be to root for moves that will make the Chiefs a Super Bowl winning team. If we don't agree with the moves the team makes doesn't count against loyalties it bolds loyalties.

Yeah, but you don't know jack ****ing shit. Just because you're on the ****ing Geno Smith bandwagon doesn't mean that the Chiefs or any other team should be there with you.

Did you interview him? Did you interview his coaches, associates or family? What information do you personally have that guarantees he will be a successful NFL QB?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Elway without Rod Smith, Shannon Sharpe and Terelle Davis?

Went to 3 SBs.

[Cephalic Trauma]

What makes Geno any different than the Mike Leech TT products of the past?

Outstanding numbers, product of a system.

[Meatloaf]

Good points, LinElliott. I just hope you're wrong and that he has sufficient arm/moxey/whatever to provide MUCH improved QB play for the Chiefs. I guess we're going to find out HOW good in short order.

I think a part of the issue is that this whole thing smells of the Cassel acquisition and we all know how that turned out. Hopefully, Reid/Dorsey will find and allow real competition for the QB in the near term. ***** just gave Cassel the reins and well, it appears he simply spit the bit.

[LinElliott]

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

What makes Geno any different than the Mike Leech TT products of the past?

Outstanding numbers, product of a system.

I don't think Geno is a franchise QB, but people said the exact same thing about Aaron Rodgers. Just sayin.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, but you don't know jack ****ing shit. Just because you're on the ****ing Geno Smith bandwagon doesn't mean that the Chiefs or any other team should be there with you.

Did you interview him? Did you interview his coaches, associates or family? What information do you personally have that guarantees he will be a successful NFL QB?

What did you know about Tyson Jackson to call him the worst pick in franchise history?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Went to 3 SBs.

And lost them all, many of them by embarrassingly bad numbers.

The point is that EVERY QB needs to be surrounded by extremely talented players, or they go nowhere.

Archie Manning is the epitome of this argument.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

What makes Geno any different than the Mike Leech TT products of the past?

Outstanding numbers, product of a system.

I literally made pages of posts explaining this. You're welcome to find them in the old Geno thread, or someone can find them for you. I started drinking so I'm in no mood to go post searching.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And lost them all, many of them by embarrassingly bad numbers.

The point is that EVERY QB needs to be surrounded by extremely talented players, or they go nowhere.

Archie Manning is the epitome of this argument.

And when you surround Alex Smith with a stacked team, what happens?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What did you know about Tyson Jackson to call him the worst pick in franchise history?

I knew that he couldn't rush the passer, that he was a two down player, that he was second team SEC and that he was not the point man for a conversion from a 4-3 to a 3-4. He was not a leader, nor was he a vocal leader at LSU.

He was a 4th round player taken at #3 overall because Pioli only knew one way to build a football team, so he followed the blueprint of Richard Seymour, Ty Warren and Vince Wilfork in the first round.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Go to Hell

And when you surround Alex Smith with a stacked team, what happens?

He averages 11 starts per year because he's an injury-prone, talent-lacking bitch?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Go to Hell

And when you surround Alex Smith with a stacked team, what happens?

I don't know for certain. No one does.

But we saw what he did last year with a very good tight end, a very good running back, a very good offensive line and an average receiving corp.

Highest QB rating in the league and a lot of wins.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I knew that he couldn't rush the passer, that he was a two down player, that he was second team SEC and that he was not the point man for a conversion from a 4-3 to a 3-4. He was not a leader, nor was he a vocal leader at LSU.

He was a 4th round player taken at #3 overall because ***** only knew one way to build a football team, so he followed the blueprint of Richard Seymour, Ty Warren and Vince Wilfork in the first round.

Same type of analysis that we can apply to Alex Smith, though. He simply lacks the necessary skill set to be the catalyst for any SB winning team, just as Jackson lacks the skill set to be a foundational piece for any defense.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by Meatloaf

How could a guy with "an absolute terrible arm" be drafted at 1.1?

Perhaps he's lost some arm strength over the years what with his injuries, but honestly, I really doubt that the guy lacks for sufficient arm strength. However, I would agree that he doesn't have a howitzer arm either. But accuracy and acumen can certainly make up for some of that........at least Joe Montana thinks so.

funny thing is... he had a decent to good arm coming out of college, then he tore his shoulder up and he now has only passable arm strength.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I knew that he couldn't rush the passer, that he was a two down player, that he was second team SEC and that he was not the point man for a conversion from a 4-3 to a 3-4. He was not a leader, nor was he a vocal leader at LSU.

He was a 4th round player taken at #3 overall because ***** only knew one way to build a football team, so he followed the blueprint of Richard Seymour, Ty Warren and Vince Wilfork in the first round.

And you were right. What obviates the pro Geno crowd from being right? Don't you both have identical levels of access?