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ShowtimeSBMVP · 11-22-2011, 02:59 PM

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RT @AdamSchefter: Filed to ESPN: Denver Broncos waived quarterback Kyle Orton today. #Broncos

RJ · 11-22-2011, 09:50 PM

I'll go with no team claims Orton and the Bears sign him for $20 and a small deep dish pizza.

Rasputin · 11-22-2011, 09:52 PM

Unbelievable Chiefs fans actually want Orton here OMG.

Who knows how Stanzi is going turn out, he is worth giving a shot for the rest of the season.

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JD10367 · 11-22-2011, 09:53 PM

"Hey, Coach Haley! Do you think you should pick up Kyle Orton?"

Tombstone RJ · 11-22-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

"Hey, Coach Haley! Do you think you should pick up Kyle Orton?"

who's saying this to?

Reerun_KC · 11-22-2011, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Unbelievable Chiefs fans actually want Orton here OMG.

Who knows how Stanzi is going turn out, he is worth giving a shot for the rest of the season.

( . ) ( . )

Its absolutely embarrassing to say the least...

Not only can we bring back mullets. Lets grow neck beards as well..

**petegz28** · 11-22-2011, 09:56 PM

Here is the reality of it all..

Cassell will be back as the starter...

Stanzi will not start a game this year unless it is the last game and Palko keeps stinking it up

Orton will never be a Chief

This team will continue riding the train of stupidity that has haunted us for decades. Ask yourself this, when was the last time the Chiefs drafted a QB to be a franchise QB? Todd Blackledge? This team for 3 years ignored dire needs on both lines and the line help they did draft if very questionable i.e. Tyson Jackson with the #5 pick and put into a 3-4. We could have had Cody last year but no...instead he is started for Baltimore and we got Baltimore's cast off. We drafted Powe and he has never seen the field, same with Stanzi. Meanwhile Piloli\Haley are in love with a 5'7" scatback. We have gone through 3 OC's and the current one doesn't know his ass from his elbow.

This team is 3 years, a head coach, a QB, 2 D-Lineman, 2 LB's, 2 O-lineman and a QB away from really threatening to win in the post-season.

And that's if Piloi pulls his head out of his ass and suddenly gets smart about things.

Chiefs Pantalones · 11-22-2011, 09:57 PM

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I'd do him.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-22-2011, 09:57 PM

What does signing Orton really do for this team? How does winning another two games help this team in the long term? Does it make it easier or harder to get a franchise QB? Does it really help Jonathan Baldwin or the O-Line in the long term? I don't see how that argument can be cogently supported.

This team needs to bottom out, yet again, in order to have a chance to succeed. Yeah, we may draft a franchise QB if we end up 6-10 or 7-9, but are the odds better or worse than if we're 4-12?

How much did those victories against Oakland and Denver really help us in 2008? How much have those empty victories against Indy and San Diego really helped us now?

**petegz28** · 11-22-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What does signing Orton really do for this team? How does winning another two games help this team in the long term? Does it make it easier or harder to get a franchise QB? Does it really help Jonathan Baldwin or the O-Line in the long term? I don't see how that argument can be cogently supported.

This team needs to bottom out, yet again, in order to have a chance to succeed. Yeah, we may draft a franchise QB if we end up 6-10 or 7-9, but are the odds better or worse than if we're 4-12?

How much did those victories against Oakland and Denver really help us in 2008? How much have those empty victories against Indy and San Diego really helped us now?

Orton does absolutely nothing unless you intend to keep him as a backup next year which isn't an entirely bad idea. But our organization is under the impression that because our division is so weak we can still win it

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-22-2011, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Orton does absolutely nothing unless you intend to keep him as a backup next year which isn't an entirely bad idea. But our organization is under the impression that because our division is so weak we can still win it

Yeah, but Orton will likely look to go to a place where he can compete for a job as a starter, like Cleveland. Were we to draft a QB high bringing him in as a one-year stopgap would be fine, but bringing him in now actually makes it less likely that we get a young, promising QB, thus obviating the need for him next year.

**petegz28** · 11-22-2011, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Yeah, but Orton will likely look to go to a place where he can compete for a job as a starter, like Cleveland. Were we to draft a QB high bringing him in as a one-year stopgap would be fine, but bringing him in now actually makes it less likely that we get a young, promising QB, thus obviating the need for him next year.

I would almost rather have him as a stop gap. Sign Orton, draft a QB and let him ride the pine for a year. If we keep Cassel as the stop gap I am afraid the gap will never stop. This team has to face some reality. The QB isn't going to get us anywhere. Our head coach isn't going to get us anywhere. Drafting 5'7" specialty players when you desparately need line help on both sides of the ball isn't going to get us anywhere. Going through an OC per season isn't going to get us anywhere.

RustShack · 11-22-2011, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

We don't run the same offense as McDaniels. Tyler Palko is also an upgrade over Cassel, but I don't want him as my quarterback for any extended length of time.

So did McDaniels suddenly stop using the Earnhart-Perkins offense when he went to Denver, or did we suddenly stop using it this year?

Haley, McDaniels, Weis, and Muir are all E-P offense guys...

RustShack · 11-22-2011, 10:30 PM

We could claim Orton, see how he does the rest of the year. If nothing else we can let him walk at the end of the year and pick up the compensation pick.

**HemiEd** · 11-22-2011, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

Orton only makes sense for Chicago: they need a QB, and he knows the system.

No he doesn't, Mike Martz is the OC now. But he does know where the locker room, bars and eateries are.

**HemiEd** · 11-22-2011, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What does signing Orton really do for this team? How does winning another two games help this team in the long term? Does it make it easier or harder to get a franchise QB? Does it really help Jonathan Baldwin or the O-Line in the long term? I don't see how that argument can be cogently supported.

This team needs to bottom out, yet again, in order to have a chance to succeed. Yeah, we may draft a franchise QB if we end up 6-10 or 7-9, but are the odds better or worse than if we're 4-12?

How much did those victories against Oakland and Denver really help us in 2008? How much have those empty victories against Indy and San Diego really helped us now?

There are 52 other guys out there busting their asses to win. Have you seen the look on Bowe's face with some of the passes he has been faced with to catch? The guys need a chance to succeed after having ****ing Cassel for 2.5 years, or they are going to want out of town.

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petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-945873	Here is the reality of it all.. Cassell will be back as the starter... Stanzi will not start a game this year unless it is the last game and Palko keeps stinking it up Orton will never be a Chief This team will continue riding the train of stupidity that has haunted us for decades. Ask yourself this, when was the last time the Chiefs drafted a QB to be a franchise QB? Todd Blackledge? This team for 3 years ignored dire needs on both lines and the line help they did draft if very questionable i.e. Tyson Jackson with the #5 pick and put into a 3-4. We could have had Cody last year but no...instead he is started for Baltimore and we got Baltimore's cast off. We drafted Powe and he has never seen the field, same with Stanzi. Meanwhile Piloli\Haley are in love with a 5'7" scatback. We have gone through 3 OC's and the current one doesn't know his ass from his elbow. This team is 3 years, a head coach, a QB, 2 D-Lineman, 2 LB's, 2 O-lineman and a QB away from really threatening to win in the post-season. And that's if Piloi pulls his head out of his ass and suddenly gets smart about things.
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