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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-17-2012, 08:23 PM   #361
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So did Snoop Minnis.
Nah, not really.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:23 PM   #362
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On topic, I've stated over and over that I'd give Bowe 8/100 40-45 guaranteed...but I'm not giving him 130-160 million with 50-60 million.
I don't understand this shit. I'd give him 45 but not 50? Draw the line?
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:24 PM   #363
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Nah, not really.
Do you want to compare their rookie seasons?
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:24 PM   #364
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Anyway back to topic.



I would have given Bowe 47 mil guaranteed. I think he's better than Vjax, but not that next level.
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On topic, I've stated over and over that I'd give Bowe 8/100 40-45 guaranteed...but I'm not giving him 130-160 million with 50-60 million.
I'd have no problem with either of those. The difference is I wouldn't blink at a 120-130 mil contract. I have no idea what the Chiefs are thinking not wanting to pay him, other than they're just plain being cheap.
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Old 07-17-2012, 08:25 PM   #365
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Big receivers without elite speed fail all the time in the NFL.

Guys like Julio come along once every five years?
Baldwin has good speed.
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Do you want to compare their rookie seasons?
Not really, don't give a shit.



Neither showed much. Baldwin played what 10 games? 12? Had a few acrobatic catches, bout it.


Minnis was a dipshit who I don't give a **** about.
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Neither showed much. Baldwin played what 10 games? 12? Had a few acrobatic catches, bout it.


Minnis was a dipshit who I don't give a **** about.
Snoop Minnis played 13 games, had 500 yards and 1 amazing TD catch.

Sounds a lot like Baldwin, minus the part where he doubles his production.
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Like stated before, I don't give a shit what they pay him, ain't my money.



Just don't expect me to pay 35 dollars to park when you won't pay a little extra for a guy I really wanna see a Chief.
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I don't understand this shit. I'd give him 45 but not 50? Draw the line?
Again, why does anyone give a shit about Clark's money?
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Snoop Minnis played 13 games, had 500 yards and 1 amazing TD catch.

Sounds a lot like Baldwin, minus the part where he doubles his production.
Sounds to me like you are piling on. Thought you liked Baldwin?
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Baldwin has good speed.
He ran a 4.50.

I bet I can find a lot of 4.5 guys his size that fail.

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Sounds to me like you are piling on. Thought you liked Baldwin?
The dig what he did in college.

As far as what he did as a rookie, it was a huge disappointment.

To label anything he did last year outside the San Diego game as "great potential" is a joke.
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I don't understand this shit. I'd give him 45 but not 50? Draw the line?
Cmon.

You have to understand there is a breaking point.

I'm comfortable with 40 million and I think that's "fair market value" for Bowe...I've been saying that over and over on here.

45 would be pushing it, but if that's what it took to get a deal done, let's do it.

Going all the way to Larry Fitzgerald money is too far.
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I'd give a shit about Baldwins rookie season stats if it wasn't hindered by Jones and he was more than a sub.
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