Movies and TV The Dark Knight Rises *Spoilers* Thread - Page 25

**mdchiefsfan** · 07-20-2012, 02:42 AM

For anyone who has seen the movie and wants to discuss it.

DMAC · 07-25-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

the thing that bugged me about that is where the **** will he get training equal to Bruce had with The League of Shadows. The Gotham YMCA doesn't teach Ninja skills.

He won't. He's a ****in sidekick.

**Reaper16** · 07-25-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

The ending to this movie is nothing new to me, since I recently watched the House series finale and the Sherlock season 2 finale. The last episode of Sherlock still bugs me but at least that will likely get resolved in the next season. Which won't air for a long time yet.

At least Sherlock gave us A TON of on-screen clues as to how he pulled it off.

lcarus · 07-25-2012, 10:49 AM

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At least Sherlock gave us A TON of on-screen clues as to how he pulled it off.

I've read a lot of theories and stuff online, but it's still pretty perplexing. To me anyways. I'm looking forward to the next season.

Micjones · 07-25-2012, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

The ending to this movie is nothing new to me, since I recently watched the House series finale and the Sherlock season 2 finale. The last episode of Sherlock still bugs me but at least that will likely get resolved in the next season. Which won't air for a long time yet.

The House series finale didn't bug me as much.
We saw the roof collapse, but it could easily have just been a section of the roof collapsing in front of House. That's a lot less gray.

lcarus · 07-25-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

The House series finale didn't bug me as much.
We saw the roof collapse, but it could easily have just been a section of the roof collapsing in front of House. That's a lot less gray.

I wasn't really talking about the mystery so much as I am them just being the same ending. "Dying", graveyard scene, loved ones mourning, but then of course they're alive.

**Buehler445** · 07-25-2012, 12:22 PM

Man, you guys are way more nitpicky than I am. I went to the movie in order to be entertained. It was very much that. VERY much that. It got your mind and emotions working and topped it off with tremendous action.

That movie was EPIC. Are there things that aren't possible? Absolutely. That's why it is ****ing fiction. If it were all absolutely real, it would be absolutely boring. Or Nolan would be able to find a Wayne Enterprises, Fox, Catwoman, Alfred, and ****ING BATMAN to base them on reality.

Look, you guys are absolutely tearing this apart based on what you guys know. But you have to let it go. I can do that too, Fox kept talking about all the R&D shit being off the books, and the fact of the matter is that a publicly traded company CANNOT keep anything off the books. No matter what, no matter the materiality. They have to file all that with the 10Q and Annual report.

But I can let all that go. Just like you guys need to let the little details go and enjoy the movie. We could rip any movie, TV show, or any work of fiction ever.

lcarus · 07-25-2012, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Man, you guys are way more nitpicky than I am. I went to the movie in order to be entertained. It was very much that. VERY much that. It got your mind and emotions working and topped it off with tremendous action.

That movie was EPIC. Are there things that aren't possible? Absolutely. That's why it is ****ing fiction. If it were all absolutely real, it would be absolutely boring. Or Nolan would be able to find a Wayne Enterprises, Fox, Catwoman, Alfred, and ****ING BATMAN to base them on reality.

Look, you guys are absolutely tearing this apart based on what you guys know. But you have to let it go. I can do that too, Fox kept talking about all the R&D shit being off the books, and the fact of the matter is that a publicly traded company CANNOT keep anything off the books. No matter what, no matter the materiality. They have to file all that with the 10Q and Annual report.

But I can let all that go. Just like you guys need to let the little details go and enjoy the movie. We could rip any movie, TV show, or any work of fiction ever.

Yep. It was a great movie. It's a movie about a man that dresses up as a bat and fights crime. I'm already suspending my disbelief, so what's the difference.

**Reaper16** · 07-25-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

We could rip any movie, TV show, or any work of fiction ever.

We can, yes. And we should.

listopencil · 07-25-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Fox kept talking about all the R&D shit being off the books, and the fact of the matter is that a publicly traded company CANNOT keep anything off the books. No matter what, no matter the materiality. They have to file all that with the 10Q and Annual report.

It was secret government work for the Department of Defense. They were paid from a black ops fund, and R&D isn't expected to make money unless it pays off with a contract. If anything the federal money helped to offset the losses and might have been toyed with to create a net loss for the department just to make it look better.

**Buehler445** · 07-25-2012, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

We can, yes. And we should.

You should, maybe. Not me. It would kill every single bit of joy I ever got out of any movie if I spent the whole time finding holes in the plot.

But, to aid your case, here are some more inaccuracies that you could cite in your attack of the movie.

The blatant SEC reporting violations that I mentioned above.
6 mile blast radius for a neutron bomb? LOL
Detonating the bomb above the water would leave huge radiation problems for the city.
No EPA oversight of tunnel building? LOL They want to control water in road ditches. They'd be all over a tunnel project.

Either way, none of that is so egregious that I can't get over it and love the **** out of the movie.

**007** · 07-25-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DMAC

He won't. He's a ****in sidekick.

**Reaper16** · 07-25-2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

You should, maybe. Not me. It would kill every single bit of joy I ever got out of any movie if I spent the whole time finding holes in the plot.

But, to aid your case, here are some more inaccuracies that you could cite in your attack of the movie.

The blatant SEC reporting violations that I mentioned above.
6 mile blast radius for a neutron bomb? LOL
Detonating the bomb above the water would leave huge radiation problems for the city.
No EPA oversight of tunnel building? LOL They want to control water in road ditches. They'd be all over a tunnel project.

Either way, none of that is so egregious that I can't get over it and love the **** out of the movie.

Well, you could watch movies that, you know, don't have a screenplay that looks like swiss cheese. The world of cinema is more than just big-hype Hollywood releases.

I feel like people are rewarding Nolan for a.) creating a dark, gritty, realistic atmosphere in this trilogy, and b.) casting his films well. The last two films in the trilogy, especially TDKR, fail to give audiences a story that they deserve. Nolan instead banks (correctly, given the film's reception and audience opinions like yours) on his atmosphere and themes being strong enough that people won't care if the film doesn't make sense.

**Buehler445** · 07-25-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Well, you could watch movies that, you know, don't have a screenplay that looks like swiss cheese. The world of cinema is more than just big-hype Hollywood releases.

I feel like people are rewarding Nolan for a.) creating a dark, gritty, realistic atmosphere in this trilogy, and b.) casting his films well. The last two films in the trilogy, especially TDKR, fail to give audiences a story that they deserve. Nolan instead banks (correctly, given the film's reception and audience opinions like yours) on his atmosphere and themes being strong enough that people won't care if the film doesn't make sense.

Perhaps. Maybe I'm a worthless know-nothing mouth breathing degenerate movie goer that is all that is wrong with modern cinema.

But, I hardly think this film doesn't make sense. I had no problem making sense of the plot. I also think that I could tear holes in virtually any film. Pure character studies would be tough, but anything relying on an exterior plot opens itself up to be holes.

patteeu · 07-25-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

I was being hyperbolic. I do that a lot.

The theme of the film is "rising." It manifests itself in a lot of different ways, including Robin John Blake assuming the mantle of Batman. The last shot was representative of the theme, it wasn't THE interpretation of the film's title.

BTW -- why are y'all talking about Robin John Blake's masked crimefighter identity being Robin or Nightwing. Did you watch the same movie I did? He's going to be Batman. Not anyone else. Batman.

Which movie are you talking about? The one where he removed the rope because he had overcome his fear of death or the one where it meant he'd regained it?

**Reaper16** · 07-25-2012, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Which movie are you talking about? The one where he removed the rope because he had overcome his fear of death or the one where it meant he'd regained it?

I still contend that, absent of Nolan's lazy parallels to Batman Begins that were the cause of the whole "regain a fear of death" thing that doesn't end up figuring into the film's climax at all like not even one bit, someone choosing to forgo the rope when attempting that climb can be read as an act of fearlessness.

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Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $2024734	Man, you guys are way more nitpicky than I am. I went to the movie in order to be entertained. It was very much that. VERY much that. It got your mind and emotions working and topped it off with tremendous action. That movie was EPIC. Are there things that aren't possible? Absolutely. That's why it is **ing fiction. If it were all absolutely real, it would be absolutely boring. Or Nolan would be able to find a Wayne Enterprises, Fox, Catwoman, Alfred, and **ING BATMAN to base them on reality. Look, you guys are absolutely tearing this apart based on what you guys know. But you have to let it go. I can do that too, Fox kept talking about all the R&D shit being off the books, and the fact of the matter is that a publicly traded company CANNOT keep anything off the books. No matter what, no matter the materiality. They have to file all that with the 10Q and Annual report. But I can let all that go. Just like you guys need to let the little details go and enjoy the movie. We could rip any movie, TV show, or any work of fiction ever.
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