KSU KSU vs Alabama for Natl Champion - Who wins? - Page 25

Chiefshrink · 10-21-2012, 08:54 AM

After watching KSU last night and granted it was against an overrated sports media hyped WVU team that has a Def ranked 115, however Geno is not overrated, he just can't do it all. KSU's game all around was just phenomenal and especially their D that I believe is just as good as Alabama.

Who wins this potential Natl Championship game?

**DaKCMan AP** · 10-22-2012, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader

Your confidence that you are 1000% positive that things will play out the way you say, oh great wizard.

Reputation is worth more than money. If Alabama/Florida, Oregon, and K-State are all undefeated at the end of of the college football season, including Conf. Championship games, then K-State will be left out of the BCS Championship. That's what I'm saying. If I'm wrong (which I won't be) you can come back here, point your finger, and laugh.

Spott · 10-22-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Ummmm those say the same things.

Oregon gets in undefeated.

Whoever wins the SEC championship game gets in. However Bama or Florida can still get in with a loss.

Point is, Oregon has to lose and K-State has to win out. It won't ever be Oregon vs K-State. Someone from the SEC will be there.

A one loss SEC team will be in the National Championship game no matter what. The only team that it may be a challenge for would be Georgia since they got beat so bad by SC, but if LSU wins out they will be in it.

**Saul Good** · 10-22-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott

A one loss SEC team will be in the National Championship game no matter what. The only team that it may be a challenge for would be Georgia since they got beat so bad by SC, but if LSU wins out they will be in it.

If Oregon and KSU win out, no team with a loss will get in over either of them.

Raiderhater · 10-22-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Reputation is worth more than money. If Alabama/Florida, Oregon, and K-State are all undefeated at the end of of the college football season, including Conf. Championship games, then K-State will be left out of the BCS Championship. That's what I'm saying. If I'm wrong (which I won't be) you can come back here, point your finger, and laugh.

Which means it is not a sure thing. If it was you'd take the easy money and run just like every other human.

Understanding how the BCS works is not the same as knowing the future out come of games.

Spott · 10-22-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too

If Oregon and KSU win out, no team with a loss will get in over either of them.

It's kind of a moot point because Oregon probably isn't going to win at Oregon St and beat USC twice and Alabama isn't losing to anyone, but there's no way the SEC champion won't be in the title game. If Oregon wins out with the schedule they have, they will also jump KSU.

**Saul Good** · 10-22-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott

It's kind of a moot point because Oregon probably isn't going to win at Oregon St and beat USC twice and Alabama isn't losing to anyone, but there's no way the SEC champion won't be in the title game.

There is absolutely a way the SEC champion could be left out.

O.city · 10-22-2012, 08:49 PM

SEC might get hurt a little for it's lower tier teams this year.

Bama is clearly the class. Florida is unblemished at this point as well.

Georgia has been blown out by SC and almost lost to Kentucky, were also played close for a while by a struggling MU team, SC lost to LSU and should have lost to Vandy. LSU has had some average games as well.

Now, the SEC is still the best conference in CFB, but where it hung its hat in previous years of being so deep, it's not as much this year.

TheGuardian · 10-22-2012, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Too

If Oregon and KSU win out, no team with a loss will get in over either of them.

Just flat out not ****ing true. Ok? Whoever wins the SEC championship is going to be there. I know you k-state fans don't like that shit, but it's been pretty much proven that the SEC winner is going to the NC game. This year is no different.

Raiderhater · 10-22-2012, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Just flat out not ****ing true. Ok? Whoever wins the SEC championship is going to be there. I know you k-state fans don't like that shit, but it's been pretty much proven that the SEC winner is going to the NC game. This year is no different.

It very well could be true if KSU and Oregon are the ONLY undefeated teams (which I highly doubt). It is not out side the realm of possibilities.

I do not understand why some of you are so incapable of realizing that there can be more than out come.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-22-2012, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Just flat out not ****ing true. Ok? Whoever wins the SEC championship is going to be there. I know you k-state fans don't like that shit, but it's been pretty much proven that the SEC winner is going to the NC game. This year is no different.

Dude, if the math isn't there, this just isn't true.

Do you understand there's math involved? BCS equation?

Plus, it's WAY too early to be prediction who will win and who won't.

LSU-Alabama, USC-Oregon, USC-Notre Dame, Florida-Florida State and Alabama-Florida loom on the horizon.

TheGuardian · 10-22-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, if the math isn't there, this just isn't true.

Do you understand there's math involved? BCS equation?

Plus, it's WAY too early to be prediction who will win and who won't.

LSU-Alabama, USC-Oregon, USC-Notre Dame, Florida-Florida State and Alabama-Florida loom on the horizon.

More than likely, one of the SEC teams are going to win out anyway. Even if not, there will be an SEC with 1 loss, that wins the SEC championship. That team is still going to get in. We can revisit this at that time if you'd like. But Bama with 1 loss is still > undefeated K-State.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-22-2012, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

More than likely, one of the SEC teams are going to win out anyway. Even if not, there will be an SEC with 1 loss, that wins the SEC championship. That team is still going to get in. We can revisit this at that time if you'd like. But Bama with 1 loss is still > undefeated K-State.

A 1-loss team will not get in over KSU if they run the table.

Period.

Raiderhater · 10-22-2012, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

More than likely, one of the SEC teams are going to win out anyway. Even if not, there will be an SEC with 1 loss, that wins the SEC championship. That team is still going to get in. We can revisit this at that time if you'd like. But Bama with 1 loss is still > undefeated K-State.

Depends on who the loss comes to.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-22-2012, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

More than likely, one of the SEC teams are going to win out anyway. Even if not, there will be an SEC with 1 loss, that wins the SEC championship. That team is still going to get in. We can revisit this at that time if you'd like. But Bama with 1 loss is still > undefeated K-State.

I'll be surprised is there isn't an SEC team in the final but anything can happen and usually does. So far, the SEC hasn't been as dominant as years past but that just proves that college football, like every other sport, is cyclical.

Would it be awesome if K-State was in the BCS Championship? Absolutely. Do I expect it? No. But it's a cool thought at this time and I never expected them to beat West Virginia on the road, let alone Oklahoma, so maybe they can pull it off and end up in the final.

I wouldn't expect them to win it there, either. But again, anything can happen.

TheGuardian · 10-22-2012, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

A 1-loss team will not get in over KSU if they run the table.

Period.

Like I said, we'll revisit this if you'd like. K-State running the table doesn't automatically get them in. This is a fact. I know it makes you guys butt hurt, but it's science.

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2504064	SEC might get hurt a little for it's lower tier teams this year. Bama is clearly the class. Florida is unblemished at this point as well. Georgia has been blown out by SC and almost lost to Kentucky, were also played close for a while by a struggling MU team, SC lost to LSU and should have lost to Vandy. LSU has had some average games as well. Now, the SEC is still the best conference in CFB, but where it hung its hat in previous years of being so deep, it's not as much this year.
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