Malaysia Airlines loses contact with plane carrying 239 people

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Malaysia Airlines says it has lost contact with a plane with 239 aboard enroute from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

The airline said in a statement early Saturday it was attempting to locate the Boeing 777 after it lost contact with Subang Air Traffic Control at 2:40 a.m. It was scheduled to land in Beijing at 6:30 a.m.

China's state-run news agency Xinhua reported the plane was lost in airspace controlled by Vietnam, and did not make contact with Chinese air traffic controllers.

The plane is carrying 227 passengers, including two infants, and 12 crew members. The airline said it is working with authorities to locate the plane.

Boeing said on its Twitter account it is monitoring the situation, and "our thoughts are with everyone on board."



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[Sully]

Originally Posted by alnorth

well, on takeoff you are never trying to touch the ground and the engines are going full blast to make sure of it. Even if something minor happens you'll probably still manage to not touch the ground.

You are touching the ground on every single landing. And yes, I am more nervous on landing than during takeoff. During takeoff I'm relaxed and enjoying the view.

That all makes complete sense.
I guess my biggest freakouts come during the portions of takeoff and climbing where I feel the plane dropping, and I'm thinking... "I knew those ****ing wings looked too small to carry this damn thing!"

[Beef Supreme]

Found it!

http://vietnam.craigslist.org/for/4372477162.html

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

You can tell the difference between Air Force and Navy pilots.

Yeah, the way they say thank you as you file off the plane

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by Sully

That all makes complete sense.
I guess my biggest freakouts come during the portions of takeoff and climbing where I feel the plane dropping, and I'm thinking... "I knew those ****ing wings looked too small to carry this damn thing!"

Look at turbulence this way....


Hot air rises (creating lift) cold air falls (decrease in lift) That is what turbulence is, you are flying through different air temperatures causing a difference in lift.

Wind shears can cause turbulence...

Easy way to see turbulence is to take a Ziploc bag, fill it 3/4 of water with a couple of tea spoons of cooking oil. Shake. That it what the air looks like when you are flying through it... Hot and cold air mixing...

[Sully]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Look at turbulence this way....


Hot air rises (creating lift) cold air falls (decrease in lift) That is what turbulence is, you are flying through different air temperatures causing a difference in lift.

Wind shears can cause turbulence...

Easy way to see turbulence is to take a Ziploc bag, fill it 3/4 of water with a couple of tea spoons of cooking oil. Shake. That it what the air looks like when you are flying through it... Hot and cold air mixing...

Nice

[alnorth]

If the plane did go down in the Indian Ocean, it is starting to sound like it may never be found, at least not anytime soon. The airfrance flight a while ago had a small search area, they found debris after 5 days, and even with all that it still took 2 years to find it. The search area for this plane is almost the entire Indian ocean.

If they conclude that they will probably never find this one, I wonder if that'll spur governments and airlines to install technology that transmits information every few minutes so we never lose another one.

[alnorth]

The funny thing I read today is that those pings we've been hearing about that lasted for about 4 or 5 hours were signals to the satellite saying "I'm ready to transmit location data", but those pings were never acknowledged by the satellite because the airline did not subscribe to some kind of premium service.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by alnorth

The funny thing I read today is that those pings we've been hearing about that lasted for about 4 or 5 hours were signals to the satellite saying "I'm ready to transmit location data", but those pings were never acknowledged by the satellite because the airline did not subscribe to some kind of premium service.

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by alnorth

If they conclude that they will probably never find this one, I wonder if that'll spur governments and airlines to install technology that transmits information every few minutes so we never lose another one.

I can't believe this isn't already in place.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by ghak99

I can't believe this isn't already in place.

If there's concern about bandwidth, I'm sure we can do something like twitter, all we need is latitude and longitude. Thats it. Maybe elevation if there's room. The black box will give us everything else.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

Found it!

http://vietnam.craigslist.org/for/4372477162.html

Oh shit!

[Eleazar]

You don't have to transmit a huge amount of data. A location every 5 or 10 minutes would have given us a lot to go on here.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by ghak99

I can't believe this isn't already in place.

It does some logical considering the engines in this case had more contact with the world than the actual plane did.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by alnorth

If there's concern about bandwidth, I'm sure we can do something like twitter, all we need is latitude and longitude. Thats it. Maybe elevation if there's room. The black box will give us everything else.

Doesn't the black box transmit coordinates?

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Dick Bull

Doesn't the black box transmit coordinates?

black box does not transmit anything. All it does is chirp for about 30 days if it detects water. Ships also have to be very near it to detect that chirp.