Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck.

[Hammock Parties]

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

In fairness. Guys like Mac and I haven't been swayed by two games.

We have been telling you guys that this was going to happen since the moment the Chiefs traded for Alex Smith.

I'm all for Alex doing well. But it's a little early to proclaim yourself a prophet.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

I'm all for Alex doing well. But it's a little early to proclaim yourself a prophet.

See. That is the difference for me and other people.

Other people see Alex's contribution as stats, throwing yards, passing yards, tds.

That has NEVER been my stance. Mine was always about helping the Chiefs WIN games.

The only stat I ever mentioned, was 37 turnovers. Which is what the Chiefs had last year.

Wins, and turnovers. Mac and I, told people that was where the biggest contribution would come from.

So yes, I am allowed to gloat and be a "prophet" in that regard wouldn't you say?

[Mav]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

I find NOTHING hilarious about Pete Carroll laughing at the expense of the 49ers.

We all know it's just a part of your "I was right about Alex Smith" campaign that's basically become your life's work.


It's all good Snoop. We already know what you're MO is.

so wait. Your avatar is funny, but my signature is offensive? Even if they are both poking fun at the 49ers?

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

See. That is the difference for me and other people.

Other people see Alex's contribution as stats, throwing yards, passing yards, tds.

That has NEVER been my stance. Mine was always about helping the Chiefs WIN games.

The only stat I ever mentioned, was 37 turnovers. Which is what the Chiefs had last year.

Wins, and turnovers. Mac and I, told people that was where the biggest contribution would come from.

So yes, I am allowed to gloat and be a "prophet" in that regard wouldn't you say?

From a chief fan perspective, sure. But I'm not sure you're really making that provocative statement saying Smitty could come in and win more than 2 games.

[9er guy]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

so wait. Your avatar is funny, but my signature is offensive? Even if they are both poking fun at the 49ers?

I'm not offended. Do you mayne.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by 9er guy

From a chief fan perspective, sure. But I'm not sure you're really making that provocative statement saying Smitty could come in and win more than 2 games.

Good thing then that I nutted up and said 10 huh?

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

It's hard for me to swing much praise for lack of TOs when Dallas dropped how many picks yesterday?

Two, including one that would have been housed and given the Cowboys the lead.

Smith has been adequate. Fine. Solid.

"Kicking ass" is an extreme stretch. Maybe compared to Matt Cassel/Brady Quinn/Brody Croyle/Tyler Palko, but not compared to legitimate NFL starting QBs.

Chiefs fans have been watching QBs who ride the short bus for too long. Alex Smith rides on the long bus, but he's the guy sitting at the front of the bus, longingly looking at all the cool kids in the back.

He took the opening drive right down the field-I say that was kicking ass. It won't matter what he does-everyone will still hate him- and I'm done with it. Kape has been a freakin turnover machine-and people say-oh that doesnt count because blah blah blah ect. I bet if Alex had played like him the last two games this place would explode-lol

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

He took the opening drive right down the field-I say that was kicking ass. It won't matter what he does-everyone will still hate him- and I'm done with it. Kape has been a freakin turnover machine-and people say-oh that doesnt count because blah blah blah ect. I bet if Alex had played like him the last two games this place would explode-lol

It was EXPLODING and Alex played well, AND HELPED THE TEAM WIN.....

lol

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

FFS, was 'you' instead of 'they' really that confusing, to miss the entire freakin' point?




I meant last week, when the 49ers were rushing for 2.5ypc and the Packers were scoring with 8 play/2:00 minute drives. SF actually had a couple of long drives, but it doesn't really matter when the Packers match it in 2 minutes.




The whole point was that Halfcan wanted to compare Smith's 0 turnovers to Kaepernick's 4 or whatever, ignoring all kinds of stuff like who the 49ers and Chiefs have played and how aggressive Kaepernick's had to be against the teams they've played vs how aggressive Smith's had to be.

Of course Kaepernick has made more mistakes... if he doesn't throw for 400+ yards vs the 49ers, they lose. Smith hasn't had to do that, obviously.

Meh, I'm done with it... a decade ago, it was all "at least we're winning!" when people tried pointing out the terrible, terrible defense, and none of it mattered come playoff time. In 2006, people ignored Herm's offense, and in 2010, people ignored the QB situation and the fact the Chiefs hadn't played anyone. If fans are excited to beat shitty teams and win 8-9 wins, good for them... it's been that way for 4 decades, so why expect more from the team you spend so much money and time and emotion on. We shouldn't talk about the big picture, because they're 2-0... we should all be celebrating or something.

It wasn't just the turnovers- it was the leadership. Kape wouldnt be where he is if Alex hadn't helped him. When they started lossing kape pouted. When the chiefs were losing-Alex brought them back against a tough D.

There is no justifying the amount of hate towards the guy and anyone that has liked him. At least for two weeks the haters have had to eat crow-

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

There is no justifying the amount of hate towards the guy and anyone that has liked him. At least for two weeks the haters have had to eat crow-

... and that is why the hate will always be.. and will continue to grow. Alex does this to the people... embarrasses their projections, and make them hate him all the more. That is why some SF fans have scurried over here to bash him. They were made to look humiliated on other forums, and still flail for any semblence of retribution. Bad Alex! Bad!

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

It wasn't just the turnovers- it was the leadership. Kape wouldnt be where he is if Alex hadn't helped him. When they started lossing kape pouted. When the chiefs were losing-Alex brought them back against a tough D.

There is no justifying the amount of hate towards the guy and anyone that has liked him. At least for two weeks the haters have had to eat crow-

My favorite is always this.

"we won today, but we cant sustain this type of winning with these types of numbers from our qb."

Then, the next week, Alex Smith wins, and its always about next week. Considering that every team loses, multiple times per season, they are bound to be right at least 4 or 5 times.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

He took the opening drive right down the field-I say that was kicking ass. It won't matter what he does-everyone will still hate him- and I'm done with it. Kape has been a freakin turnover machine-and people say-oh that doesnt count because blah blah blah ect. I bet if Alex had played like him the last two games this place would explode-lol

The "blah blah blah" is everything that doesn't make it a black and white argument. You seriously think you can compare those two quarterbacks after 2 games, considering the differences in the teams they've played, locations they've played in, what was required to win each game, etc?

1-1
2-0

0 turnovers
turnover machine (3 or 4? )

Yeah, it's that simple. Nothing else matters when evaluating different QBs on different teams playing other different teams, etc. Why discuss reality when we make shallow comments.... he's just a hater and doesn't even get paid to do football! derp

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

My favorite is always this.

"we won today, but we cant sustain this type of winning with these types of numbers from our qb."

Then, the next week, Alex Smith wins, and its always about next week. Considering that every team loses, multiple times per season, they are bound to be right at least 4 or 5 times.

This is exactly the type of non-sense I was talking about.... of course people are going to say those things after 2 games. It's been TWO GAMES! If he proves himself over even just half a season, then people will start to change their opinions. Winning a second game against a mediocre team doesn't make anything anyone said after game one less relevant. 'Sustain' doesn't mean "two".

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Your sig is really offensive, bro. Come on now...

Offensive?!?

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

He took the opening drive right down the field-I say that was kicking ass. It won't matter what he does-everyone will still hate him- and I'm done with it. Kape has been a freakin turnover machine-and people say-oh that doesnt count because blah blah blah ect. I bet if Alex had played like him the last two games this place would explode-lol

So one drive is enough for you to say a QB kicks ass? I don't hate him. I would LOVE to be wrong, and for Andy Reid to be right about him. Saying I haven't seen anything to believe that's the case so far is not 'hating' him. It's being cautious and requiring proof rather than blind faith.

And if Kaep had lit up a good defense for 400 yards, 70 percent completions, 3 TDs, and led the Chiefs to a win against an elite NFL team like the Packers, yes, I would explode. From excitement. Hell, I'll explode from excitement if Alex Smith manages to lead KC to a win against a similar team (key term: LEAD. That doesn't mean win a nailbiter with multiple scores set up by the defense).

Kaerpernick looked bad last night, on the road, against what is likely the best defense in the National Football League. KC has not played a defense remotely in that neighborhood, but if it it did, the ultimate outcome is likely nearly the same (completely stagnant offense). There just will be a lot more punts and fewer turnovers.

The Green Bay and Dallas defenses are pretty comparable... how did Kaerpernick do against Green Bay, again?