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04-24-2013, 12:04 PM | #3811 |
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Trading out of the top pick is the best option, considering the strength of this class is not at the top but in the high to mid rounds
That said a trade down from 1.1 is unlikely It seems it is just boiling down to who the FO likes better between Fisher and Joekel The Albert trade chatter seems to support the idea that he is not in the long term plans |
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04-24-2013, 12:06 PM | #3812 | |
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Joeckel is easily a better OT than Tyron Smith and Anthony Davis. He's a Ryan Clady type talent IMO.
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04-24-2013, 12:06 PM | #3813 |
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My apologies CPers, but it very well might be my fault all along generating all this Luke Joeckel to KC nonsense.
I went down to Texas A&M in November for a Beef101 seminar, and ever since I've had this enormous binder with all workshop materials on the corner of my desk. Cannot believe that just today I cleared off a couple papers on top of it, and lo and behold tehre is a big ass TEXAS A&M logo staring me right in the face! It was promptly removed and handed off to a Raider fan coworker, left it on his desk. So now we can move on from this madness!!! Please?!? |
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04-24-2013, 12:07 PM | #3814 | |
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04-24-2013, 12:12 PM | #3815 | |
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He'd have gone behind Monroe in 2009 but before Oher. In 2008 he'd have gone at 14 to the Bears instead of Williams. It's hard to say in 2007, but I don't see anything that makes him clearly better as a prospect than Joe Staley was and Staley went 28. Same problem in 2006; no comparable talent. In 2005 he'd have gone after Brown; probably to the Rams at 16 instead of Barron. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying this 'surefire top 10' shit. The draft for tackles just hasn't been falling that way and Luke Joeckel, the 2nd best LT on his college team, isn't clearly better than guys that were falling into the teens and 20s.
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04-24-2013, 12:13 PM | #3816 | |
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I said "strong tackle class". So why bring up 2011? That wasn't a strong class at all. Let's say 2009. I think most would agree that was a strong tackle class. He's probably off the board sometime after Michael Oher at 23. You want to compare him to Clady? That's fine. Clady went 12 in a class that was basically Jake Long and a bunch of guys. You've just said he's the equivalent of a player that was drafted 3 picks ahead of Albert. Thanks! That's proving our point for us. |
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That draft does as much to make my point as any other draft out there. Joeckel's just another good LT prospect. He's not exceptional by any means.
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04-24-2013, 12:20 PM | #3818 | |
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In this draft, that type of talent is a HUGE win.
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04-24-2013, 12:24 PM | #3819 |
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wow ...
Well the experts seem to think the same about Geno Smith and the Quarterback class.
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04-24-2013, 12:25 PM | #3820 |
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I think Joekyl is drafted before Oher.
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04-24-2013, 12:25 PM | #3821 | |
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Thanks again for proving my point.
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04-24-2013, 12:26 PM | #3822 |
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Geno Smith might not even go top 10 in this weak class. WTF does that say?
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Don't shoot the poster, I'm not endorsing this, just passing along.
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo 1m Good news if Chiefs draft Luke Joeckel? The other 3 offensive lineman taken 1st overall were each selected to at least four Pro Bowls.
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04-24-2013, 12:29 PM | #3825 |
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ok, I was trying to help you out and get another QB...)
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