Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters

[Messier]

So many people here, it seems, wanted one of the QBs at first overall, they don't care who, despite, no team might be starting any of those QBs this year, and just see what he can do. Yeah, that's fun an interesting for fans. He could completely suck or he could be alright, don't see any really good QBs out of this class. So, if the ceiling is a little better than Smith, and the floor is complete bust, I don't see the upside for the coaches. To wait out what probably won't happen , and watch the roster get a few years older before going in another direction. A good team can win with Alex Smith. I have no problem with them seeing if they can give Smith a good team around him, and seeing what they can do these next few years.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

You have to be miserable to think of those scenerios...jeez let s play the season first

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by PGM

You have to be miserable to think of those scenerios...jeez let s play the season first

Not really. Its just rehashing stuff that always happens to the Chiefs.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Duncan Idaho deserves the Congressional Medal of Jesus for his work in this thread.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Duncan Idaho deserves the Congressional Medal of Jesus for his work in this thread.

Alex Smith has three of those.

[Sandy Vagina]

2013 NFL Preview: AFC West

http://nfl.si.com/2013/07/11/2013-nf...est/?mobile=no

Kansas City Chiefs

Key moves: Signed WR Donnie Avery, TE Anthony Fasano, G Geoff Schwartz, DE Mike DeVito, LB Akeem Jordan, CB Sean Smith, CB Dunta Robinson; traded for QB Alex Smith; drafted OT Eric Fisher, TE Travis Kelce, RB Knile Davis, LB Nico Johnson; CB Sanders Commings; lost QB Matt Cassel, RB Peyton Hillis, WR Steve Breaston, OT Eric Winston, G Ryan Lilja, DT Glenn Dorsey, CB Javier Arenas, S Abram Elam; hired head coach Andy Reid, OC Doug Pederson, DC Bob Sutton, consultants Chris Ault and Brad Childress

Where they got better: Quarterback. Naysay all you want, but Smith completed 61.3 percent of his passes in 2011 and a whopping 70.2 percent, prior to injury, in 2012. Placed in an offense that properly uses him, Smith can be efficient and effective. Andy Reid seems determined to provide Smith with just such an environment, too, as he’s brought on pistol innovator Chris Ault and has been toying with that formation, among others. Having a legitimate No. 1 quarterback will be a godsend for the Chiefs following a season that saw Matt Cassel and Brady Quinn slop their way to a 2-14 record.

Where they got worse: Inside linebacker, possibly. The honest answer is that the Chiefs are no worse at any spot than they were to close 2012 — remember, this was a 2-14 team that finished dead last in points scored and 25th in points allowed. From a personnel standpoint (and it’s hardly that important given the circumstances), the Chiefs have not recovered from Jovan Belcher’s tragic murder-suicide in December. They have Akeem Jordan penciled in as the starter next to Derrick Johnson at inside linebacker, but there is little in Jordan’s background to indicate he can handle that starting job for 16 games.

Breakout player: Travis Kelce, TE. The Chiefs rolled the dice in Round 3 on Kelce, who carried some red flags into the draft. That gamble could pay off in a big way. Kelce should see plenty of playing time, and he has the athletic ability to thrive in Andy Reid’s West Coast attack.

Where they stand: Seemingly every season in the NFL, a team bounces back from a last-place finish to make the playoffs. Are the Chiefs the 2013 Cinderella? Granted, it is a massive leap from 2-14 to the playoffs, so let’s start a little more slowly: Kansas City could have an elite secondary after adding CBs Sean Smith and Dunta Robinson; RB Jamaal Charles might bust loose in Reid’s scheme; Smith has developed into an impressive QB, and he’s behind what might be a very solid O-line; the receivers and defensive front seven have ample talent. This may not be a 10-win team, but a minimum of six wins is realistic.

[RealSNR]

Question:

If the "safe" strategy taken by Reid and Dorsey in this draft ends how many of us think it will-- setting up a firm foundation for nothing but game managing broke dick veteran QBs to take giant shits on this already feces-stained franchise with no hope of sustained playoff success because of the lack of a true QB-- will you finally put to rest this horrible strawman true fanism about "Good thing we didn't just draft a QB in the first round just to draft one! That would have been awful!"

As it is, I see a potentially stellar offensive line with a stupendous RB and a decent WR1. A game manager can win regular season games with those weapons. But not playoff games. And especially not championships.

I'm still in awe that so many of you love that we didn't take a risk on being a truly great team that fans of other teams around the league talk about like they currently do the Seahawks and 49ers. Eric Fisher was a safe pick. That's all you ****ing care about.

Drunk rant over.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by SNR

Question:

If the "safe" strategy taken by Reid and Dorsey in this draft ends how many of us think it will-- setting up a firm foundation for nothing but game managing broke dick veteran QBs to take giant shits on this already feces-stained franchise with no hope of sustained playoff success because of the lack of a true QB-- will you finally put to rest this horrible strawman true fanism about "Good thing we didn't just draft a QB in the first round just to draft one! That would have been awful!"

As it is, I see a potentially stellar offensive line with a stupendous RB and a decent WR1. A game manager can win regular season games with those weapons. But not playoff games. And especially not championships.

I'm still in awe that so many of you love that we didn't take a risk on being a truly great team that fans of other teams around the league talk about like they currently do the Seahawks and 49ers. Eric Fisher was a safe pick. That's all you ****ing care about.

Drunk rant over.

Nope. There will ALWAYS be an excuse with these assholes. Always.

[crazycoffey]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Nope. There will ALWAYS be an excuse with these assholes. Always.

I feel the same way about you.

[Messier]

Did I love that oline was the best position early in the draft? No, but I accepted it as reality early on, and that no QB was going high in this draft. It seems like so many here were blown away by the foolish teams that passed on all that potential greatness out there. No matter how small the potential is. But accepting reality gets turned into loving the situation by people that had no feeling or understanding of what was happening with this draft.

So, its fine that many here get angry at "true fans", and think they whack it to pictures of Orlando Pace, because I saw first hand this off season how out of touch so many of those "real fans" were.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Messier

Did I love that oline was the best position early in the draft? No, but I accepted it as reality early on, and that no QB was going high in this draft. It seems like so many here were blown away by the foolish teams that passed on all that potential greatness out there. No matter how small the potential is. But accepting reality gets turned into loving the situation by people that had no feeling or understanding of what was happening with this draft.

So, its fine that many here get angry at "true fans", and think they whack it to pictures of Orlando Pace, because I saw first hand this off season how out of touch so many of those "real fans" were.

Mayock and Kiper thank you, and look forward to influencing your pea-mush soup brain for years to come.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Mayock and Kiper thank you, and look forward to influencing your pea-mush soup brain for years to come.

Weren't you certain if we dared pass on Geno, that Jacksonville would make us look like fools and take him second?

Brava! Your heads not just for hats!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Messier

Weren't you certain if we dared pass on Geno, that Jacksonville would make us look like fools and take him second?

Brava! Your heads not just for hats!

Well, you know, those HIGHLY intelligent folks who run the Jags just couldn't resist Joekel Fever! As you'll recall, DJ Talking Head just couldn't stop spinning that awesome JOEKEL FEVER WAX, BABY!

And, just like in the music industry/world, a bunch o' fools bought that shit.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Well, you know, those HIGHLY intelligent folks who run the Jags just couldn't resist Joekel Fever! As you'll recall, DJ Talking Head just couldn't stop spinning that awesome JOEKEL FEVER WAX, BABY!

And, just like in the music industry/world, a bunch o' fools bought that shit.

They passed on him with the first pick in the second round as well......

Just saying.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Well, you know, those HIGHLY intelligent folks who run the Jags just couldn't resist Joekel Fever! As you'll recall, DJ Talking Head just couldn't stop spinning that awesome JOEKEL FEVER WAX, BABY!

And, just like in the music industry/world, a bunch o' fools bought that shit.

Yes it was just the Jags that passed on Geno in the 1st, that's why he went in the 2nd round.

Keep posting jr.