Chiefs Ted Ginn on the block - Page 26

**The Bad Guy** · 04-13-2010, 12:34 PM

I think he would fit extremely nicely as a slot receiver/KR/PR. I imagine the Tuna would require a 4th or maybe even 2 of our 5ths. Would you pull the trigger?

Frosty · 04-15-2010, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Wow, no double standard there.

Ryan had VERY similar tools at his disposal last year, and regressed.

Power running game? Check.

Versatile playmaking RB? Check.

Solid OL? Check.

Superstar deep threat? Check.

HOF TE? Check.

Well, to be fair to Ryan, there were some circumstances that lead to the struggles. The running game wasn't there through a lot of the season because Turner and Norwood both missed a lot of time with injuries. Roddy White held out through most of camp and took a little time to get back up to speed. Ryan had the turf toe injury mid-season and didn't play all that well from then on. Atlanta's defense was pretty bad, so Ryan was frequently playing in catch up mode.

If they can get over the injury bug and Atlanta can get some defenders, Ryan should have a great season next year. The Saints will probably take the division but Atlanta should be in the mix.

Bill Lundberg · 04-16-2010, 11:08 AM

Jay_GlazerTed ginn just traded to 49ers for a late-round pick in this year's draft!

3000

patteeu · 04-16-2010, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

Jay_GlazerTed ginn just traded to 49ers for a late-round pick in this year's draft!

3000

Milestone newsbreaker!

**The Franchise** · 04-16-2010, 11:13 AM

Not a bad pickup for the 49ers.

**SAUTO** · 04-16-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Not a bad pickup for the 49ers.

lol

DJ's left nut · 04-16-2010, 11:14 AM

That sucks.

I would've gladly given up a 5th for the guy.

Ginn's still a deep threat and a good 'vertical' returner. He catches and runs into seems. He'd have continued to be a good returner, IMO.

Look at the roster slag you usually get with 5th rounders. For a guaranteed plus kick returner, good occasional deep threat and possible developmental speed WR, a 5th is a no brainer.

Sure-Oz · 04-16-2010, 12:12 PM

NOOOOoooooo

I hope they didn't give up more than 6th

Bill Lundberg · 04-16-2010, 12:13 PM

5th Rounder

Adam_Schefter
RT @MattMaiocco: In '07, 49ers were THRILLED when Dolphins took Ginn at No. 9 (SF took Willis at 11.) Now they're giving up No. 145 for him.

**BigRedChief** · 04-16-2010, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Lundberg

5th Rounder

Adam_Schefter
RT @MattMaiocco: In '07, 49ers were THRILLED when Dolphins took Ginn at No. 9 (SF took Willis at 11.) Now they're giving up No. 145 for him.

I heard many a rumor that the Chiefs were going to give up a 5th for Ginn. I'm surprised they didn't.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-16-2010, 12:30 PM

Say what you want about Ginn, but that was more than a fair price.

Conceivably, we could have gone into 2010 with the following WRs:

Bowe, Chambers, Holmes (minus 4 games), Ginn

Seems as though I have multiple outside threats and a slot/KR/PR as well.

Oh, and I still have a fifth round pick.

Hammock Parties · 04-16-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Bowe, Chambers, Holmes (minus 4 games), Ginn

Nothing this awesome will ever happen to the Chiefs.

But man you want to talk about restoring some faith, if Pioli had dumped two fifth rounders for Holmes and Ginn, wow. People around here would be sucking his Cannoli.

**SAUTO** · 04-16-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Nothing this awesome will ever happen to the Chiefs.

But man you want to talk about restoring some faith, if Pioli had dumped two fifth rounders for Holmes and Ginn, wow. People around here would be sucking his Cannoli.

have you read this thread? some were crying about even THINKING about trading for ginn

DJ's left nut · 04-16-2010, 12:37 PM

Alright - I'll go on record now.

Ginn will be a far FAR better player than the guy that the Chiefs take with their 5th this season. I'll have to develop a more complex barometer for 'better' when I see who they take, but I'm pretty comfortable with that.

5th rounders over the last 10 years:

Colin Brown (doubt he ever sees an active roster)
Brandon Carr (big time win; would eat crow)
Kolby Smith (sucks, has always sucked, don't get the love)
Justin Medlock (ugh)
Marcus Maxey (did he make it out of camp?)
Alfonso Hodge (I have no idea who this person is)
Jordan Black (I-75, I believe it was?)
Fujita (another big win and would eat crow)
Billy Baber (forgot this guy was a TE, I was thinking Monty Beisel in my head...)
Dante Hall -- ladies and gentlemen: Ted Ginn as a jitterbug.

Ginn is a lateral returner, he catches it and runs forward. He's also lightening fast and has okay size. He's a guy that could have certainly been a major weapon for us and the odds favor him being a far greater contributor than whoever that 5th would've have been is. He's still young, he's an athlete, and in 2008 he looked well on his way to a breakout 2009.

He was worth a 5th round gamble. Never had a doubt Pioli would pass on him though.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-16-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Nothing this awesome will ever happen to the Chiefs.

But man you want to talk about restoring some faith, if Pioli had dumped two fifth rounders for Holmes and Ginn, wow. People around here would be sucking his Cannoli.

Seriously, let's just say that Cassel gets his second (undeserved) year:

Well, you could have come out of this offseason and added this to your team via your draft picks:

1: Berry
2: Daryl Washington
2: Koa Misi
3: Joseph
4:Tennant
5: Holmes
5: Ginn
5: Lindsey Witten

Hammock Parties · 04-16-2010, 12:49 PM

I don't even want to think about what an offense with Chambers, Holmes and Ginn does to a defensive coordinator. The safeties would be permanently affixed 10 yards+ from the line of scrimmage on most downs.

Charles would rape.

You could run off coverage on damn never every down with Chambers and Holmes, while Ginn runs drags underneath and roasts linebackers trying to chase him, and Bowe works the middle on slants, posts and curls.

Coverages would be soft, all game long, so Cassel could throw WR screens to his heart's delight.

Charles would destroy every defense in the league on draw plays.

04-13-2010, 12:34 PM
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9363645	Ted Ginn on the block I think he would fit extremely nicely as a slot receiver/KR/PR. I imagine the Tuna would require a 4th or maybe even 2 of our 5ths. Would you pull the trigger?
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04-16-2010, 11:08 AM	#377
Bill Lundberg American Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10004925	Jay_GlazerTed ginn just traded to 49ers for a late-round pick in this year's draft! 3000 __________________ Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after. ~Henry David Thoreau
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04-16-2010, 11:13 AM	#379
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2575047	Not a bad pickup for the 49ers.
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04-16-2010, 11:14 AM	#381
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $2449099	That sucks. I would've gladly given up a 5th for the guy. Ginn's still a deep threat and a good 'vertical' returner. He catches and runs into seems. He'd have continued to be a good returner, IMO. Look at the roster slag you usually get with 5th rounders. For a guaranteed plus kick returner, good occasional deep threat and possible developmental speed WR, a 5th is a no brainer. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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04-16-2010, 12:13 PM	#383
Bill Lundberg American Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10004925	5th Rounder Adam_Schefter RT @MattMaiocco: In '07, 49ers were THRILLED when Dolphins took Ginn at No. 9 (SF took Willis at 11.) Now they're giving up No. 145 for him. __________________ Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing it is not fish they are after. ~Henry David Thoreau
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04-16-2010, 12:30 PM	#385
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7919572	Say what you want about Ginn, but that was more than a fair price. Conceivably, we could have gone into 2010 with the following WRs: Bowe, Chambers, Holmes (minus 4 games), Ginn Seems as though I have multiple outside threats and a slot/KR/PR as well. Oh, and I still have a fifth round pick. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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04-16-2010, 12:37 PM	#388
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $2449099	Alright - I'll go on record now. Ginn will be a far FAR better player than the guy that the Chiefs take with their 5th this season. I'll have to develop a more complex barometer for 'better' when I see who they take, but I'm pretty comfortable with that. 5th rounders over the last 10 years: Colin Brown (doubt he ever sees an active roster) Brandon Carr (big time win; would eat crow) Kolby Smith (sucks, has always sucked, don't get the love) Justin Medlock (ugh) Marcus Maxey (did he make it out of camp?) Alfonso Hodge (I have no idea who this person is) Jordan Black (I-75, I believe it was?) Fujita (another big win and would eat crow) Billy Baber (forgot this guy was a TE, I was thinking Monty Beisel in my head...) Dante Hall -- ladies and gentlemen: Ted Ginn as a jitterbug. Ginn is a lateral returner, he catches it and runs forward. He's also lightening fast and has okay size. He's a guy that could have certainly been a major weapon for us and the odds favor him being a far greater contributor than whoever that 5th would've have been is. He's still young, he's an athlete, and in 2008 he looked well on his way to a breakout 2009. He was worth a 5th round gamble. Never had a doubt Pioli would pass on him though. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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04-16-2010, 12:49 PM	#390
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4150478	I don't even want to think about what an offense with Chambers, Holmes and Ginn does to a defensive coordinator. The safeties would be permanently affixed 10 yards+ from the line of scrimmage on most downs. Charles would rape. You could run off coverage on damn never every down with Chambers and Holmes, while Ginn runs drags underneath and roasts linebackers trying to chase him, and Bowe works the middle on slants, posts and curls. Coverages would be soft, all game long, so Cassel could throw WR screens to his heart's delight. Charles would destroy every defense in the league on draw plays. __________________ Chiefs game films
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