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Old 03-27-2013, 11:37 AM  
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Chiefs to Work Out Geno Smith in KC
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:15 PM   #376
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:15 PM   #377
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Starting ILB will be either a draft pick or FA (Dansby cough, cough) and personally, I'd do both.
I thought Dansby had more in common with DJ and less in common with a true "Thumper"? He's 31 years old and the Dolphins of all teams, didn't seem to upset to replace him. He might be a nice pickup for vet's minimum but I don't think he's at that point just yet.

While I've been saying that the Chiefs should spend a 3rd rounder on an ILB since last year, it's impossible to predict that the hole would actually be filled, especially if there's not a proven veteran behind him (and Brandon Siler doesn't count, IMO).

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LG, who the **** knows. I don't particularly want to slide Asamoah to LG and I literally know nothing about Schwartz.
Here's my "beef" with Schwartz: For two straight years, he's been hyped in the media as a "under the radar player", yet he's on his third team in three years.

I hope he works out but I wouldn't bet on it, especially long term.

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Center is probably Hudson, unless they decide to move him to guard or he hasn't recovered (which is a viable possibility; his leg was shredded).
He's definitely a question mark at this point, at either position.

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RT I also have no idea. Allen probably demonstrates more traits you'd expect physically that a RT personifies but personally, I'd rather have Stephenson as a RT if we keep Albert and don't draft Joeckel due to his athleticism and the fact we'll still be utilizing a ZBS primarily and Stephenson was/is a better pass blocker. A gamble nonetheless.
Stephenson showed that the game wasn't too big last year and he came in extremely raw. He *could* be the long term solution at right tackle, or not. Allen, on the other hand, did look overwhelmed far too frequently for my taste.

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That being said, there aren't any real locks on the OL sans Asamoah IMO.
Asamoah is in a contract year and really needs to step it up. Otherwise, he'll lose his job and probably not get it back, unless there's an injury.

I really, really liked him coming out of college but he's just been average at best. Average is fine, if the rest of the line is average or above average, but he's definitely been hurt by center and right tackle play.

He hasn't been a dominant player that I thought he would quickly become in the NFL.

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ILB is a need easily filled in the draft and can be supplemented with FA. Safety, ugh. There are very few solid FS prospects in this draft, even in the later rounds. If Dunta can play there, sweet. I'm not counting on it yet as I've yet to see anything from Reid/Dorsey that indicates that.
Yeah, this is a BIG issue. We all saw Jon McGraw back there. I just hope we don't see something similar in 2013.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:18 PM   #378
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I said nothing about Geno.

Furthermore, filling a hole in the draft with a 3-7 round pick is very different from actually filling a hole with a proven, veteran player.
That's why we signed 12+ free agents as well as locked up our own (except Dorsey) guys.

Draft Geno and let his career take the Aaron Rodgers/Colin Kaepernick path.

Seriously Dane, after that ha of free agents this team doesn't have enough holes that the draft can't fill em all...there are a lot of bargain basement free agents left that we could bring in for 1 year deals, too...if needed after the draft.

They could draft Geno and sit him for 2 years and not lose a god damned thing over taking any other player in this draft at 1.

If there would be a better usage of that pick, I'd like to know how.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:20 PM   #379
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Why is drafting a RT at 1 so ghastly if he's an all pro type guy?
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:23 PM   #380
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Or taking a pass rusher with huge upside?
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Why is drafting a RT at 1 so ghastly if he's an all pro type guy?
Because it'd be like giving a 4 year $40 million contract to a middle reliever.
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Why is drafting a RT at 1 so ghastly if he's an all pro type guy?
Because it's a position that offers very little impact towards wins and losses and a first overall pick needs to impact wins and losses.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:25 PM   #383
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I thought Dansby had more in common with DJ and less in common with a true "Thumper"? He's 31 years old and the Dolphins of all teams, didn't seem to upset to replace him. He might be a nice pickup for vet's minimum but I don't think he's at that point just yet.
I don't think that Sutton wants a true "thumper" at ILB. They've been bitching for the last 3 years about having to take Scott off the field on subs while keeping Harris in. IMO (and I've bitched about this incessantly) you need two ILBs that can cover, even if one or both aren't true thumpers or fantastic against the run. In fact, having 2 ILBs who can cover, are quick and aren't thumpers helps your run D against 3W sets IMO. Just an opinion though
While I've been saying that the Chiefs should spend a 3rd rounder on an ILB since last year, it's impossible to predict that the hole would actually be filled, especially if there's not a proven veteran behind him (and Brandon Siler doesn't count, IMO).



Here's my "beef" with Schwartz: For two straight years, he's been hyped in the media as a "under the radar player", yet he's on his third team in three years.

I hope he works out but I wouldn't bet on it, especially long term.
I literally have no idea about him. Never watched him, don't really know anything about him other than what's been available in the media.


He's definitely a question mark at this point, at either position.
I really like Rodney but he's definitely not a player to be counted on at the moment.


Stephenson showed that the game wasn't too big last year and he came in extremely raw. He *could* be the long term solution at right tackle, or not. Allen, on the other hand, did look overwhelmed far too frequently for my taste.

It's funny, breaking down all of the PS games and the TC that I went to, I thought that Allen looked like a solid blocker and Stephenson looked lost. Maybe that has to do with Allen being thrown into the fire early but he didn't impress me nearly as much as Stephenson did.

Asamoah is in a contract year and really needs to step it up. Otherwise, he'll lose his job and probably not get it back, unless there's an injury.
I think he's been above average the past 2 seasons as a run blocker and decent in pass pro. Hence, why I'm hesitant to move him to LG. Haven't really evaluated him or anything since he's still under contract and didn't really view him as a piece to be worried about


Yeah, this is a BIG issue. We all saw Jon McGraw back there. I just hope we don't see something similar in 2013.
The last part, this is why I would have loved to have #34. Cyprien could fall, Elam could fall, etc. Both would have been solid additions.
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Or taking a pass rusher with huge upside?
This I don't really ahve a problem with.

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Why is drafting a RT at 1 so ghastly if he's an all pro type guy?
This I do. You don't need All Pro tackles IMO. You need a top tier QB. Average to slightly above average QB play improves your OL (see Barry Richardson + Kyle Orton). Having an elite QB allows you to be productive even with horrific players at RT and LT (see the Bears, GB, NO). You need average, consistent OL play. While having an elite LT helps, it isn't a game changer. Nobody is confusing 2013 Bryant McKinnie with Joe Thomas.
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The rules changed since the Eli/Rivers situation.

You can't draft a kid and then trade him right away.
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You know how important right tackles are?

Look at the free agents list...there are multiple guys out there right now that are quality right tackles that nobody wants to pay.

Sebastian Vollmer just got a bag of chips and he is probably the best right tackle in the game...that's after being a free agent for a long time.
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That's why we signed 12+ free agents as well as locked up our own (except Dorsey) guys.

Draft Geno and let his career take the Aaron Rodgers/Colin Kaepernick path.

Seriously Dane, after that ha of free agents this team doesn't have enough holes that the draft can't fill em all...there are a lot of bargain basement free agents left that we could bring in for 1 year deals, too...if needed after the draft.

They could draft Geno and sit him for 2 years and not lose a god damned thing over taking any other player in this draft at 1.

If there would be a better usage of that pick, I'd like to know how.
They better fill the ILB and Safety positions or it'll be 2011 all over again.

Furthermore, their offensive line is clearly in flux, which isn't a good thing.

I'm not stating that they can't fill these holes. But they're not filled yet.
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The last part, this is why I would have loved to have #34. Cyprien could fall, Elam could fall, etc. Both would have been solid additions.
Yeah, I don't think that Asamoah has the strength, especially lower body strength, to be an effective left guard.

We can only hope that the Chiefs will trade back for additional picks.
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You know how important right tackles are?

Look at the free agents list...there are multiple guys out there right now that are quality right tackles that nobody wants to pay.

Sebastian Vollmer just got a bag of chips and he is probably the best right tackle in the game...that's after being a free agent for a long time.
What? Bag of chips? WTF?

He got more than $8 million guaranteed this season, about $250k less than Jake Long.
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