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**DaneMcCloud** · 01-20-2016, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru

As I have been watching this I couldn't help but wonder if it will setup the eventual Rouge One. Kind of like what Marvel did with Agents of Shield before Winter Soldier.

It's difficult to predict because Rogue One is "probably" four years after Season 2 of Rebels. A lot could happen in that time but supposedly, there are no Jedi in Rogue One. But again, Kanan, Ahsoka and Ezra don't really qualify.

It would be odd, IMO, if Ahsoka is alive in Rebels but not seen in Rogue One.

**007** · 01-20-2016, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's difficult to predict because Rogue One is "probably" four years after Season 2 of Rebels. A lot could happen in that time but supposedly, there are no Jedi in Rogue One. But again, Kanan, Ahsoka and Ezra don't really qualify.

It would be odd, IMO, if Ahsoka is alive in Rebels but not seen in Rogue One.

I'm pretty much expecting her to be killed by Vader at some point.

listopencil · 01-20-2016, 01:34 AM

I've been digging around looking at the concept of a "Grey Jedi" on a few sites. Mainly because I love to torture myself by imagining an entire storyline in my head that can't possibly play out in the movies, but I'm having fun with it. It's not something I'm familiar with because I was never interested enough in anything other than the movies themselves. Is Luke a Grey Jedi? If not at least by the end of the original three movies, is he now?

Silock · 01-20-2016, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's set approximately five years before ANH.

Rebels will run as long as it's affordable and gets ratings. While Season 3 has been greenlit, there's been nothing beyond that at this point. Dave Filoni did an interview with EW recently in which he talked about the budgetary restraints, even in animation, so I'm not sure how many more seasons to expect.

Also, Rogue One overlaps with Rebels so I'm not sure how that's going to work.

As for Epi 8, shooting has been delayed a month for a script re-write, so take that for what it's worth. There are changes in line for Rogue One, too.

IT wouldn't shock me if it went Netflix only.

Bambi · 01-20-2016, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake

fail.

How did the girl who had never trained to be a Jedi or use the force defeat a trained darkside master?

unlurking · 01-20-2016, 09:23 AM

Maybe they could do a spinoff dark themed show? Keep Kanan and Hera for the Rebels, and delve into a story about Ezra's beginnings with the dark side? Probably not a Disney channel offering, but I really liked the novels I've read that told stories from the other side (Dark Disciple and Tarkin so far). Would love to see a show or movie from this perspective.

NewChief · 01-20-2016, 09:24 AM

Finally started season 2 of Rebels last night. Got through three episodes. It's pretty awesome.

One thing I don't like in the Disney takeover of the SW universe: the way they just keep uncorking and unveiling new races. I mean, there were already so many established races that covered the spectrum of cultures and such. Now they've brought out like two or three new races for the inquisitors, not to mention the Lasats. It just starts to feel disjointed after a while to keep unveiling new ones.

Edit: actually I see that the Grand Inquisitor is a preexisting race of Pau-an. Not sure about the new one that got introduced in episode 3?

keg in kc · 01-20-2016, 02:34 PM

ep 8 pushed back to Dec 15 next year. Speculation is that it's purely financial, to wreck the box office again. Not any production related thing

Guess Xmas will be star wars for the foreseeable future...

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-20-2016, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

ep 8 pushed back to Dec 15 next year. Speculation is that it's purely financial, to wreck the box office again. Not any production related thing

Guess Xmas will be star wars for the foreseeable future...

It's production related

listopencil · 01-20-2016, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

How did the girl who had never trained to be a Jedi or use the force defeat a trained darkside master?

1) He didn't want to harm her, he was trying to recruit her

2) He took a gut shot from a bowcaster

3) He had just gone through the emotional turmoil of killing his own father - by impaling him from less then three feet away, face to face

4) We don't know Rey's backstory

5) She appeared to tap into the Dark Side at a pivotal time in that fight but was interrupted by catastrophic geological event

mnchiefsguy · 01-20-2016, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

1) He didn't want to harm her, he was trying to recruit her

2) He took a gut shot from a bowcaster

3) He had just gone through the emotional turmoil of killing his own father - by impaling him from less then three feet away, face to face

4) We don't know Rey's backstory

5) She appeared to tap into the Dark Side at a pivotal time in that fight but was interrupted by catastrophic geological event

All that Listo said. Plus the fact that Bambi is mistaken---Kylo Ren is not a darkside master. He is more of an advanced apprentice.

listopencil · 01-20-2016, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

All that Listo said. Plus the fact that Bambi is mistaken---Kylo Ren is not a darkside master. He is more of an advanced apprentice.

Yeah, that too. Snoke is supposed to be taking him for more training after the events of this movie as I recall.

keg in kc · 01-20-2016, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's production related

Maybe you have some information I don't, but I just don't believe that. A few week production delay for a script rewrite doesn't justify a 7-month push back of the release date. I think it's strategic.

Not that it matters in the end, it's not coming out until next December either way.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-20-2016, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Maybe you have some information I don't, but I just don't believe that. A few week production delay for a script rewrite doesn't justify a 7-month push back of the release date. I think it's strategic.

Not that it matters in the end, it's not coming out until next December either way.

Yeah, the word is that it's a pretty major re-write with the elimination and/or massive reduction of a few new characters. If you'll recall, this happened with Episode VII as well, so it's not really a shock.

Add to that (as I did in the Episode VIII thread), going up against Avatar 2 isn't the smartest move from a marketing standpoint, IMO, which further belies the necessity of the re-write to get it "right".

Rogue One is undergoing another re-write as well. I don't know how they're going to be ready for December 2016, unless there's very little VFX.

keg in kc · 01-20-2016, 05:38 PM

Yeah, I know about all the rewrites.

This might actually be a sign that we're about to hear about yet another delay for Avatar 2.

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