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Old 01-08-2015, 08:29 PM  
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Old 06-27-2016, 08:22 AM   #3991
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He's pretty much going to have to have Targaryen fire immunity, or else nobody will believe his claim (even if Howland Reed explains it all etc.).
I thought Jon was already burned one time? Thats what Redditt thinks as a done deal. Not every Targayren is immune to fire. Danerys brother certainty wasn't.
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Old 06-27-2016, 08:25 AM   #3992
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No one knows that. Ned took the secret to his grave. As far as the Starks are concerned, he's Ned's son.
Correct, the people in the room at that moment in time. But, its going to come out that he is Raheger's son at some point. My comment was about the long term view on how it ends.

He rides one of Danerys dragons, I think people will be convinced.
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Old 06-27-2016, 08:28 AM   #3993
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I thought Jon was already burned one time? Thats what Redditt thinks as a done deal. Not every Targayren is immune to fire. Danerys brother certainty wasn't.
He burned his hand pretty bad taking out the wight at Castle Black.
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Holy shit, man. Your posts after each episode make me happy that I've never read the books.
Although I agree with him about the speeches part, the path the TV series has given us many fantastic scenes that never happened in the books.

Briene and Jamie scenes after he gets back to KL.

The hound and Brienne fight.

Tywin was not even in whole books. He defintely wasn't an advisor to Danerys. His scenes are some of the best in the whole GOT.

Brienne and Jon are still dead in the books.

Bronn was out in the books after they got through Blackwater.

We spent 500 pages of Stanis druging through the snow to get to Wiinterfell. Another 500 pages deciding who would lead the Iron Islands.
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Old 06-27-2016, 08:48 AM   #3995
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The Valonqar prophecy seems more and more likely with each passing episode. That look Jamie and Cersei exchanged was ice cold. I'm thinking he'll add Queenslayer to his resume soon.

Any chance Jamie makes it out of this alive? He's made friends on both major sides that oppose the Lannisters. Brienne could vouch for him to Jon/Sansa and Tyrion to Daenerys.
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We can put this whole 'Cersei Redemption Tour' to bed now, right?

Woman's a friggen nut-job and always has been. D&D spent 4 years trying to make her a sympathetic figure and hey, it turns out she's just a psycho-beast, same as many of us always claimed.

Stop trying to make this person anything other than a savage opportunist.
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No, he's just crazy. Sure there are minor things I could argue about, but focusing on the stupid little stuff that annoys you while ignoring the overall awesomeness is pretty dumb IMHO.
Yeah, there are a ton of us who have read the books, and the show is badass regardless of any departures from the way the books handled things.
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The Valonqar prophecy seems more and more likely with each passing episode. That look Jamie and Cersei exchanged was ice cold. I'm thinking he'll add Queenslayer to his resume soon.

Any chance Jamie makes it out of this alive? He's made friends on both major sides that oppose the Lannisters. Brienne could vouch for him to Jon/Sansa and Tyrion to Daenerys.
Jamie, the uniter? Kills off Cersei, convinces Dany not to kill everyone through his relationship with Tyrion, establishes a truce with Jon through his relationship with Brienne, and they all march united to war with the white walkers?

OK, that's probably a bit too rainbows and lollipops for this show, but Jamie's character is one of the deepest in the show, and it wouldn't surprise me to see him become a "good guy" in the end.
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I got to thinking how many long standing houses have either completely ceased to exist or are in real danger of ceasing to exit.

House Tyrell: Gone. Grandma ain't having any babies to carry on the name.

House Lannister: Hanging on by a thread. All the heirs are dead. Jamie and Tyrion better get to it if they want the family name to live on.

House Bolton: Gone.

House Frey: Gone.

House Baratheon: Gendry is still rowing. Last of his line, I believe.

Umber: Gone.

Karstark: Gone.

The Stark family name is relying totally on Bran at this point.

Who else?
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I got to thinking how many long standing houses have either completely ceased to exist or are in real danger of ceasing to exit.

House Tyrell: Gone. Grandma ain't having any babies to carry on the name.

House Lannister: Hanging on by a thread. All the heirs are dead. Jamie and Tyrion better get to it if they want the family name to live on.

House Bolton: Gone.

House Frey: Gone.

House Baratheon: Gendry is still rowing. Last of his line, I believe.

Umber: Gone.

Karstark: Gone.

The Stark family name is relying totally on Bran at this point.

Who else?
Tyrell still has Willas; it should continue. He's been used as potential marriage bait a time or two; I expect he'll be married off still (Dany, perhaps?). EDIT: Tyrell also has Garlan Tyrell. Neither have been part of the show but are in the family tree issued by HBO so part of the show canon nonetheless. The Tyrell line is still in fine shape (recall that Loras was Kingsguard in the books anyway and was the youngest brother; he was never going to be the lord of Highgarden). Actually, it looks like the current HBO website shows Loras as the only son. That wasn't previously the case. So book and show have diverged quite a bit here. The Tyrell line is all but extinct on the show (very very odd and an unnecessary mistake, IMO).

Frey also still has some remaining males, or so I believed. Umber and Karstark may/may not be wiped out, we can't be entirely sure. They surely won't continue to exist as cadet houses, but I don't know that their lines are truly wiped out (I could actually see the Karstark's mending fences).

Bolton and Baratheon are done. Gendry is still bastard born and I don't expect Daenerys will be eager to legitimize him and bring back the line that she blames for the murder of pretty much her entire family.
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The greatest and most powerful families we see are just small portions of the large houses anyway. There are presumably still tons of Lannisters, Freys, Tyrells, etc.

Most of these powerful houses are looking to be extinguished here soon, though. Or at least stripped of their lordships and titles.
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Holy shit, man. Your posts after each episode make me happy that I've never read the books.
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No, he's just crazy. Sure there are minor things I could argue about, but focusing on the stupid little stuff that annoys you while ignoring the overall awesomeness is pretty dumb IMHO.
Yea I know plenty of book readers that nitpick, but this is the most extreme case I've seen.
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How come Snow let Melisandre ride south? Davos wanted her executed and her argument against it was that she could help Snow win the war against the white walkers.

So, one would assume that Snow would either execute her, or let her live to help him in the coming war. Instead, he lets her live, but banishes her from the North.

What's the deal?

Edit: Also, Davos was great in that scene. That dude is a good actor.
I think Snow feels he owes her because she brought him back to life. So saving her from execution repays that debt and now they go their separate ways because he can't stand to have her on his side.
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