Chiefs The QB Reid chooses to lead the Chiefs - Page 27

O.city · 01-06-2013, 06:49 PM

A slapdick backup gives you a 3 or 4 year window, if he's the right one.

A draft pick turns out to be the right one, you are set up for 10 plus years. Pretty easy decision IMO.

**Gadzooks** · 01-06-2013, 06:50 PM

So if you pick up a QB with the No. 1 pick in a draft that is not strong at the QB position you would be willing to accept the 2 or 3 seasons of growing pains before displaying any signs of unrest, however, if you pick up a high profile backup from another team there will be no room for growing pains?

O.city · 01-06-2013, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks

So if you pick up a QB with the No. 1 pick in a draft that is not strong at the QB position you would be willing to accept the 2 or 3 seasons of growing pains before displaying any signs of unrest, however, if you pick up a high profile backup from another team there will be no room for growing pains?

Thats why you're taking the backup right? He's already experienced and ready to go?

jd1020 · 01-06-2013, 06:52 PM

Remember the last time we traded for a backup QB, who had more game time experience...

**Gadzooks** · 01-06-2013, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Thats why you're taking the backup right? He's already experienced and ready to go?

9-7 would be a good record for a team with a new QB being trained by the Walrus. I would expect less from a rookie but apparently that's not good enough..

O.city · 01-06-2013, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks

9-7 would be a good record for a team with a new QB being trained by the Walrus. I would expect less from a rookie.

Less in year 1, maybe.

Year 3, nope.

Qb's acquired by trade or free agency don't win SB's anymore. 6 first or second year QB's were in the playoffs this year, IIRC.

NJChiefsFan · 01-06-2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Less in year 1, maybe.

Year 3, nope.

Qb's acquired by trade or free agency don't win SB's anymore. 6 first or second year QB's were in the playoffs this year, IIRC.

Yes, you remember correctly.

**cdcox** · 01-06-2013, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks

So if you pick up a QB with the No. 1 pick in a draft that is not strong at the QB position you would be willing to accept the 2 or 3 seasons of growing pains before displaying any signs of unrest, however, if you pick up a high profile backup from another team there will be no room for growing pains?

Most QBs make a huge leap from year 1 to year 2 of playing. After that, improvement levels out in most cases (there are a few exceptions like Brees). If our QB is still floundering after year 2, I'm ready to move on at the next opportunity to draft a starter. It might take 2 or 3 cycles to find the right guy. I'm patient enough for that.

**Gadzooks** · 01-06-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Most QBs make a huge leap from year 1 to year 2 of playing. After that, improvement levels out in most cases (there are a few exceptions like Brees). If our QB is still floundering after year 2, I'm ready to move on at the next opportunity to draft a starter. It might take 2 or 3 cycles to find the right guy. I'm patient enough for that.

It looks like it's going to be you and me alone on the Planet during the 3rd cycle. (Please don't mention Brees again)

**SAUTO** · 01-06-2013, 07:59 PM

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It looks like it's going to be you and me alone on the Planet during the 3rd cycle.

I reckon I'd still be around
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Exoter175 · 01-06-2013, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

24 first downs for the entire year is utterly pathetic.

Any slapdick off the street could achieve what Dexter does.

The guy made a first down on 46.2% of his catches this year. Do you have any idea how awful that is?

It didn't even rank in the top 160 receivers.

Dexter is garbage.

Really? If any slapdick off the street could achieve what Dexter did, we'd be the Kansas City Slapdicks, because nobody other than Charles or Bowe did anything for us this year.

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**007** · 01-06-2013, 06:52 PM

I would rather just run with a rookie now and live with the growing pains than limp along with another teams backup.

Nickel D · 01-06-2013, 07:14 PM

I can't believe there are at least 154 idjitz on this site who would want to waste the #1 pick on a rookie QB who is nowhere near the caliber of A. Luck or RG3. It would be worse than the time when the Bonkos killed off their first-round, #25 pick, by selecting Tim Tebow.

jd1020 · 01-06-2013, 07:16 PM

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I can't believe there are at least 154 idjitz on this site who would want to waste the #1 pick on a rookie QB who is nowhere near the caliber of A. Luck or RG3. It would be worse than the time when the Bonkos killed off their first-round, #25 pick, by selecting Tim Tebow.

Must be a TON of idiots in the NFL world then. Fairly certain that there have been a lot of QBs drafted #1 that weren't the prospect Luck was.

Nickel D · 01-06-2013, 10:18 PM

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Must be a TON of idiots in the NFL world then. Fairly certain that there have been a lot of QBs drafted #1 that weren't the prospect Luck was.

True dat -- so you'll be quite happy with the 2nd coming of Ryan Leaf.

View Poll Results: I will only be happy if Andy Reid selects...
A QB with the 1st pick of the draft	167	48.69%
Trades back and selects a QB in the 1st round	39	11.37%
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A QB in the mid to late rounds of the draft	2	0.58%
A free agent, or trade from another team at QB	10	2.92%
Michael Vick	7	2.04%
Kevin Kolb	2	0.58%
He's Andy ****ing Reid. He knows more than I do. Whoever he takes, I'm good.	94	27.41%
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