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Old 04-13-2010, 12:34 PM  
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Ted Ginn on the block
I think he would fit extremely nicely as a slot receiver/KR/PR. I imagine the Tuna would require a 4th or maybe even 2 of our 5ths. Would you pull the trigger?
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:51 PM   #391
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Crabtree, Morgan, Ginn and Davis.
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:53 PM   #392
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49ers pick that they traded was 145. We held Miami's 5th at 144, our 5c pick. I assume KC could have had Ginn with that pick if they had wanted to make the trade.

Ginn's best contribution would be as a kick return man though. Miami was not using him as a punt returner. As a WR he caught 49% of the balls thrown to him in 2009. He can run but he can drive a team nuts.
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:54 PM   #393
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Say what you want about Ginn, but that was more than a fair price.

Conceivably, we could have gone into 2010 with the following WRs:

Bowe, Chambers, Holmes (minus 4 games), Ginn

Seems as though I have multiple outside threats and a slot/KR/PR as well.

Oh, and I still have a fifth round pick.
If that was a fair price for Ginn, Mike Tannenbaum is the best ****ing GM in the history of the league.

I would have loved to have Bowe, Chambers and Holmes and still had 2 R5 picks to either use, or package to move around with.
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:55 PM   #394
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QB: Mark Sanchez
RB: Jamaal Charles
WR: Dwayne Bowe
WR: Santonio Holmes
Slot: Ted Ginn
LT: Branden Albert
LG: Brian Waters
C: Matt Tenant
RG: Ryan Lilja
RT: ???

DE: Glenn Dorsey
NT: Sammie Lee Hill
DE: Linval Joseph (can also play NT)

OLB: Tamba Hali (Witten)
ILB: Rey Maualuga
ILB: Daryl Washington
OLB: Koa Misi (Witten)

CB: Brandon Flowers
FS: Eric Berry
SS: Bernard Pollard
CB: Brandon Carr

KR/PR: Ted Ginn

Granted we have a hole at right tackle so we'll never win a Super Bowl.
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:56 PM   #395
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49ers pick that they traded was 145. We held Miami's 5th at 144, our 5c pick. I assume KC could have had Ginn with that pick if they had wanted to make the trade.

Ginn's best contribution would be as a kick return man though. Miami was not using him as a punt returner. As a WR he caught 49% of the balls thrown to him in 2009. He can run but he can drive a team nuts.
Which means if you trade for him, 2 of the 5 WR's you're dressing each week are specialists.

He's an average kick returner and a below average WR.

Glad they passed.
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:57 PM   #396
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49ers pick that they traded was 145. We held Miami's 5th at 144, our 5c pick. I assume KC could have had Ginn with that pick if they had wanted to make the trade.
Yes, but that would require that Pioli actually make a move.

He must not have been able to get ahold of Belichick in time. Dumbass Pioli - you'd better have your text message prepared when the 'skins finally make their pick, BB may not get back to you in time to get your card turned in.
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:57 PM   #397
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Won't matter who the tackles are anyway the Chiefs line is going to get piss pounded up the middle because Casey Weigmann never has been able to block 34 nose guards.
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Granted we have a hole at right tackle so we'll never win a Super Bowl.
No tight end or fullback, either, you ****.

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Old 04-16-2010, 12:58 PM   #399
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I'm not sure why not trading for draft bust Tedd Ginn is such a big deal though.
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Old 04-16-2010, 12:59 PM   #400
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What If? Game:

QB: Mark Sanchez
RB: Jamaal Charles
WR: Dwayne Bowe
WR: Santonio Holmes
Slot: Mardy Gilyard
LT: Branden Albert
LG: Brian Waters
C: Matt Tenant
RG: Ryan Lilja
RT: Chris Scott

DE: Glenn Dorsey
NT: Sammie Lee Hill
DE: Linval Joseph (can also play NT)

OLB: Tamba Hali (Witten)
ILB: Rey Maualuga
ILB: Daryl Washington
OLB: Koa Misi (Witten)

CB: Brandon Flowers
FS: Eric Berry
SS: Bernard Pollard
CB: Brandon Carr

KR/PR: Mardy Gilyard

Granted we have a hole at right tackle so we'll never win a Super Bowl.
FYP, by saving the R5 pick you would have spent on Ginn. Guessing you'd have to pull Misi to get the R3 you'd need to draft Gilyard.
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I'm not sure why not trading for draft bust Tedd Ginn is such a big deal though.
On it's own, it really isn't.

It is, however, symptomatic.

Our GM is gutless.
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On it's own, it really isn't.

It is, however, symptomatic.

Our GM is gutless.
To be fair he did try and trade for Boldin. I would classify his moves as moronic not gutless. It's been stated before this franchise has now put all it's chips in the draft and we'll just have to wait and see though this franchise has never drafted good.
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Christ, this just makes me sick.

This roster would be built for years of contention. The only guy over 30 on this list is Waters.

What If? Game:

QB: Mark Sanchez
RB: Jamaal Charles
WR: Dwayne Bowe
WR: Santonio Holmes
Slot: Mardy Gilyard
LT: Branden Albert
LG: Brian Waters
C: Matt Tenant
RG: Ryan Lilja
RT: Chris Scott

DE: Glenn Dorsey
NT: Sammie Lee Hill
DE: Linval Joseph (can also play NT)

OLB: Tamba Hali (Witten)
ILB: Rey Maualuga
ILB: Daryl Washington
OLB: Koa Misi (Witten)

CB: Brandon Flowers
FS: Eric Berry
SS: Bernard Pollard
CB: Brandon Carr

KR/PR: Mardy Gilyard
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To be fair he did try and trade for Boldin. I would classify his moves as moronic not gutless. It's been stated before this franchise has now put all it's chips in the draft and we'll just have to wait and see though this franchise has never drafted good.
The Chiefs franchise was excellent at drafting in the 70's and 80's under Steadman and Schaaf (60's as well).

The problem is that other than Hank Stram, they couldn't find a coach worth a shit.

Look at the 80's roster that Marty inherited: Neil Smith, Bill Maas, Deron Cherry, Albert Lewis, Kevin Ross, Lloyd Burrress, Carlos Carson, Stephone Paige, Dino Hackett, Nick Lowery, John Alt, Christian Okoye,, Jonathan Hayes, JC Pearson and Kevin Porter.

That's some serious talent. They also traded a 4th for DeBerg.
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