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Major scoopage: Redskins have agreed to a trade w Rams for #2 pick of draft. Rams and Skins swap (cont) http://tl.gd/gbhvr8

Major scoopage: Redskins have agreed to a trade w Rams for #2 pick of draft. Rams and Skins swap first rounders this yr w Rams also getting 2 future #1s and additional picks. Story coming on fox sports dot com

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Washington Redskins traded three first-round draft picks and a second-round pick to St. Louis for second overall pick … http://say.ly/frx1yvb

chiefzilla1501 · 03-12-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Exactly why it wasn't worth the risk.

Who are the deadskins going to put around RGIII to give him a chance at being successful?

No one.

It was a stupid ****ing move.

I don't think it's a stupid move to make at all. The Redskins are ****ed the next 2-3 years no matter who's QB. But if RGIII pans out, by year 3 or 4, they have a franchise QB and we may not.

O.city · 03-12-2012, 07:49 PM

The Skins made a move that they hope will work out for the next 10 years. I think they know they aren' tlikely to win in the next year or two, but hopefully when RGIII is ready they have picks and are ready to go.

It's a risky move, but it could pay off huge.

**DeezNutz** · 03-12-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

No. Not at all worth the risk.

I will ask again, who has done this and it paid off for? Tell me.

No one that I can recall off-hand.

It's an aggressive move. No question. But I'd rather be sitting here with RGIII in the fold and no firsts in '13 and '14 than waiting around for the next dingleberry to fall from The Tree, with Cassel tending the flock in the meantime.

TheGuardian · 03-12-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't think it's a stupid move to make at all. The Redskins are ****ed the next 2-3 years no matter who's QB. But if RGIII pans out, by year 3 or 4, they have a franchise QB and we may not.

I think a lot of you underestimate the power of confidence. A lot of rookies don't pan out because they don't have success as quickly as they think they will. Esp at the QB position. Confidence is huge.

They aren't going to be able to surround him with good players. And you don't ask a rookie QB to carry a team. That's a recipe for disaster.

It's a stupid ****ing move. You just got busted for violating the cap rules, and you've got no other high round picks to surround him with. You've got no WR's, no backs, and a shit offensive line.

And some of you think this is a good move, and you make fun of Pioli?

Jesus titty ****ing christ..........

TheGuardian · 03-12-2012, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

No one that I can recall off-hand.

It's an aggressive move. No question. But I'd rather be sitting here with RGIII in the fold and no firsts in '13 and '14 than waiting around for the next dingleberry to fall from The Tree, with Cassel tending the flock in the meantime.

Ok so it's never worked, and has failed a ton, but it's aggressive.

Driving super fast the wrong way down a 1 way street could be called aggressive.....or totally ****ing stupid.

O.city · 03-12-2012, 07:50 PM

When has trading this much for a QB never worked?

**DeezNutz** · 03-12-2012, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Ok so it's never worked, and has failed a ton, but it's aggressive.

Driving super fast the wrong way down a 1 way street could be called aggressive.....or totally ****ing stupid.

Who has tried this approach? The Browns getting back into the first for Quinn. Didn't give up as much. Who else?

We have one example, with a far lesser prospect.

Dr. Gigglepants · 03-12-2012, 07:55 PM

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Who has tried this approach? The Browns getting back into the first for Quinn. Didn't give up as much. Who else?

We have one example, with a far lesser prospect.

That's the one I thought of too. The Broncos traded a little to get Tebow. The most recent major jump I can remember is the Falcons coming up for Roddy White. They jumped up like 20 spots but I can't remember what they gave up to do that. I know he isn't a QB, but didn't the Falcons also get shutout in the playoff this year?

Brock · 03-12-2012, 07:58 PM

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That's the one I thought of too. The Broncos traded a little to get Tebow. The most recent major jump I can remember is the Falcons coming up for Roddy White. They jumped up like 20 spots but I can't remember what they gave up to do that. I know he isn't a QB, but didn't the Falcons also get shutout in the playoff this year?

It was Julio Jones, and they gave up a shitload.

They swapped first rounders, plus a second and fourth last year, and a first and fourth this year.

Great player, though.

seamonster · 03-12-2012, 07:59 PM

Didn't see the bengals sale out their future to pick up either green or dalton. There's no reason why Griffen couldn't turn into another quarterback with post tramatic stress syndrome because he's on a stinky redskin team with no offensive line or playmakers for the next five years. Leagues littered with quarterbacks that had potential but got thrown into the fire and took giant beatdowns.

No reason for a team to put somebody into this situation unless they're Dan Snyder and the ferret.

Dr. Gigglepants · 03-12-2012, 08:06 PM

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It was Julio Jones, and they gave up a shitload.

They swapped first rounders, plus a second and fourth last year, and a first and fourth this year.

Great player, though.

Jones it was, thanks. Hard to believe all that for a WR. For a QB like RGIII, 2 firsts and a second is nothing.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-12-2012, 08:08 PM

I still don't understand why we're arguing about compensation that isn't even close to what the Chiefs would have had to offer.

TheGuardian · 03-12-2012, 08:09 PM

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Jones it was, thanks. Hard to believe all that for a WR. For a QB like RGIII, 2 firsts and a second is nothing.

JFC, you can't be serious?

How many downs has he ****ing played yet?

And how many pro bowls and all pros has Jones been to?

Oh yeah none.

Keep em coming.

O.city · 03-12-2012, 08:11 PM

He's been in the league 1 year man.

TheGuardian · 03-12-2012, 08:13 PM

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He's been in the league 1 year man.

It won't matter. WR's don't generally make teams SB teams.

It's just another example of a dumb move.

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2434064	The Skins made a move that they hope will work out for the next 10 years. I think they know they aren' tlikely to win in the next year or two, but hopefully when RGIII is ready they have picks and are ready to go. It's a risky move, but it could pay off huge.
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seamonster Veteran Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $5765409	Didn't see the bengals sale out their future to pick up either green or dalton. There's no reason why Griffen couldn't turn into another quarterback with post tramatic stress syndrome because he's on a stinky redskin team with no offensive line or playmakers for the next five years. Leagues littered with quarterbacks that had potential but got thrown into the fire and took giant beatdowns. No reason for a team to put somebody into this situation unless they're Dan Snyder and the ferret.
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