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Old 12-02-2012, 09:18 PM  
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Go to hell whitlock.

Yes I am a noob here, but after hearing that whitlock just blamed Belcher and his girlfriends death on lack of more restrictive gun laws.
You are a true classless piece of shit, using this incident to push your anti-bill of rights agenda, **** you.
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:27 PM   #391
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Yea I didn't feel like going back through and updating it to date considering nobody is stupid enough to attempt to go after it with a 2.5M to 3k ratio. The numbers are not really going to change that much anyway. YOu could always try and discredit it though based upon being old useless information.
I don't have a problem with your conclusion. I do have a problem with you searching out 22 years in the past to find information that will support it. The world has changed considerably in the last 22 years.
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:29 PM   #392
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I don't disagree with your rights to have these things. Matter of fact, the only thing I disagree with is silly arguments to keep them legal like equating a ball bat or running/walking to a handgun, whose sole intended purpose is to shoot someone else.

I'd like to say that I have the answer to how to solve these problems but I don't. Truth is there probably is no way to stop stuff like this. Therefor I think they should be legal so people at least have the ability to defend themselves.
If somebody is going to kill you, does it really matter if they use a bat or a gun? Or a broom handle, or a brick? Or a pair of scissors? You're still dead.
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:30 PM   #393
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To protect and it does it quite well 2.5 million times a year. Debating this subject is ridiculous. There is no other side there is just stupidity, ignorance and spin.
Oh there's always another side. The stupidity is refusal to even acknowledge it.
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:31 PM   #394
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If somebody is going to kill you, does it really matter if they use a bat or a gun? Or a broom handle, or a brick? Or a pair of scissors? You're still dead.
I think I stand a significantly better chance defending myself against someone with a broomstick than a handgun.
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:32 PM   #395
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The starter of this thread is a living, breathing argument for gun control. reeruns shouldn't be allowed to carry weapons.
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:33 PM   #396
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The starter of this thread is a living, breathing argument for gun control. reeruns shouldn't be allowed to post on Chiefs Planet .
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:34 PM   #397
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I think I stand a significantly better chance defending myself against someone with a broomstick than a handgun.
What are you gonna do? Stick it up your ass and be stupid on a stick?
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:35 PM   #398
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Oh there's always another side. The stupidity is refusal to even acknowledge it.
There is no way to intelligently defend a gun ban. Some times I think you just like to argue symantics for arguments sake. YOu must have a lot of time on your hands.
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:36 PM   #399
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I would just like to see one libtard attempt to justify their postion and reply to post 349 but that never happens. It's also much more relevant.

In all honesty the metphore they are using is legit. If you want the benefits of 2.5 Million SDGU's annually then you have to take the downside which is the 3k deaths. If you want the benefits of a car you have to take the downside potential risks associated with them also.
You can count me as a libtard, because I think the 2nd Amendment (as it clearly states), refers to a "well-regulated militia." I don't think that one asshole living in a trailer counts as that, so I don't think that his right to keep and bear arms being infringed upon is unconstitutional.

Of course, now the tube is out of the toothpaste, gun-wise, and I don't think you could ever ban handguns in America without causing a massive problem. It's not like the criminals are all going to casually turn in their .9 millimeters, right? So you'd just have the honest, law-abiding people do it. That doesn't seem smart to me, either.

But - to your point - I'm going to try and respond to post 349 and defend my position.

1. I concede every statistic and every single interpretation of those statistics.

2. I still have problems with it. Why?

Here's why:

1. Okay, so you're saying 60% of those statistics are suicides. Gotcha. How many of those suicides are children or teenagers? Because the finality of suicide by self-inflicted gunshot eliminates any chance of cooler heads prevailing, or rescuing the depressed teen from their own bad judgment. Your kid hate school and takes your sleeping pills, you can get him to the hospital. He puts your .40 cal semiautomatic to his head, and it's bedtime for brainless.

2. I concede that handguns protect law abiding citizens from crime. Cool. Johnny Q. America goes to the donut shop. Ramon T. McCriminal walks in looking for a few greenbacks to buy some of the grass he snorts or whatever those bad people do. Johnny America pulls out Mr. Desert Eagle and there's one more hole in the donut shop, and one less bad guy hanging out in pool halls. Yay for handguns and yay for concealed carry.

However...

Johnny Q. America ain't doing that shit with an M4 assault rifle. He's not gonna sip on vanilla bean with cream and sugar while holding onto his fully automatic AK-47 (What American would own such a commie gun, I don't know). So, who is using these guns, if it's not Mr. Protect-the-Peace?

Here is where I think that more detailed statistics are necessary. You say the majority of gun crimes are criminals shooting criminals, right? Well, how many of the times that assault rifles are fired in public do you think are fired by law abiding citizens using legally obtained guns? How many of the assault rifles fired not at a gun range or on hunting grounds, but on city streets - how many of those rifles have serial numbers filed off? Or were bought out of the back of a van by a dude selling rock?

Lastly, as a libtard, yes, I want to make it harder to buy guns. I embrace the fact that I will probably never see a country without guns, which would be preferable. Literally, if no single gun existed on the face of this earth I'd be happy, but I don't see Penelope Cruz sucking on my balls, so this isn't Fantasy Land.

While I will not argue that we should infringe upon your (apparent) right to KEEP and BEAR arms, I would very much like to infringe upon the convenience of PURCHASING the arms that you keep and bear.

I think only members of the United States Armed Services, or Federal, State, County, or City law enforcement communities should have the legal right to BUY assault rifles. If they buy them as a gift for a friend, then godspeed. I'm not infringing on that friend's right to keep it and bear it. But I don't think he should be able to buy it.

Likewise, if you want to take the time to fill out all of the paperwork, take a gun safety class (no more than a driver's ed course) and take both the practical and written tests, then you can buy a gun. Again, it's your right to keep that gun and bear it, but if you want to BUY one then you have to show us that you are as law abiding as Pawnmower or Johnny Q. America from the donut shop.

There. That's my libtard response to post 349.
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What are you gonna do? Stick it up your ass and be stupid on a stick?
It would certainly stop you. You'd probably start throwing dollar bills my way.
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It would certainly stop you. You'd probably start throwing dollar bills my way.
I would put them in your man panties boy and smack you on your sissy ass.
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I think I stand a significantly better chance defending myself against someone with a broomstick than a handgun.
I had a guy at a poolhall threaten to whack me with a pool stick. He didnt have the guts to use it. So I took it away from him & split his head wide open with the stick. Im pretty sure Bugs was there for that one. He bled like pig.
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The starter of this thread is a living, breathing argument for gun control. reeruns shouldn't be allowed to carry weapons.
Kind of like you being a living, breathing argument for the death penalty but nobody is cutting off your oxygen.
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There is no way to intelligently defend a gun ban. Some times I think you just like to argue symantics for arguments sake. YOu must have a lot of time on your hands.
I try to look at both sides of an issue. When somebody doesn't I like ****ing with them. You're an easy target.
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