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Old 04-25-2013, 01:54 AM  
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:10 PM   #391
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:11 PM   #392
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1B is the 2nd easiest position in the MLB to field (not that any are particular easy) and is reserved for left handed power hitters or right handed power hitters that can't play defense.

So yeah...

you can argue that 1st base and LF are comparable...but 1B is generally reserved for your power hitting lefty since he can only play 1B or OF. And I can't imagine Travis Hafner ever being able to play OF (although maybe he did when he was younger)...

but regardless...left field is where you hide your shitty left handed players who can't play defense, or shitty defensive players who can't throw.
Ultimately, Hootie, bats play. That's why, defending upon the roster construction, you might see a Manny. Or, if he's particularly slow, you have a Billy Butler at 1B, or a Miggy at 3B.

At the K, I'll take LF over 3B every single day.
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:11 PM   #393
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Here are the position adjustments for Baseball Reference WAR:

1.C: +10 runs
2.SS: +7.5 runs
3.2B: +3 runs
4.CF: +2.5 runs
5.3b: +2 runs
6.RF: -7.5 runs
7.LF: -7.5 runs
8.1B: -10 runs
9.DH: -15 runs

Catcher is a little funny because not many people can do it, but its not really the usual speedy, rangey, athletic type of skill thats needed like for every other position.

Catcher aside, this pretty much lines up with how I've always felt. There's a big drop off from 3B to the corner OF, then another one to 1B, and finally you had better be a really big bat to DH.
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:11 PM   #394
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Why does Ned continue to believe that Collins is a lefty specialist? Because he's not
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:11 PM   #395
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1B is definitely easier to play than LF, or at least requires less athleticism.
well again

I probably agree with that to an extent

but 1B is a reserved position...

I'm talking about 3rd base. 3rd base is arguable the 2nd toughest position to play. I'd probably rank it 5th because it's an instinct position...behind SS, C, 2nd, CF...

but it's CLEARLY more important than left ****ing field.

Left is where you hide your shitty guys like Manny and Soriano. It's just fact.
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Here are the position adjustments for Baseball Reference WAR:

1.C: +10 runs
2.SS: +7.5 runs
3.2B: +3 runs
4.CF: +2.5 runs
5.3b: +2 runs
6.RF: -7.5 runs
7.LF: -7.5 runs
8.1B: -10 runs
9.DH: -15 runs

Catcher is a little funny because not many people can do it, but its not really the usual speedy, rangey, athletic type of skill thats needed like for every other position.

Catcher aside, this pretty much lines up with how I've always felt. There's a big drop off from 3B to the corner OF, then another one to 1B, and finally you had better be a really big bat to DH.
So basically, without looking this up, my last post was SPOT ****ING ON.

Hilarious.
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I said:

SS, C, 2nd, CF, 3rd

It was C, SS, 2nd, CF, 3rd

Basically Deez...

My baseball knowledge > your baseball knowledge

(oh and ... there is only a 9.5 run differential between 3rd and LF )
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Why does Ned continue to believe that Collins is a lefty specialist? Because he's not
I don't see how he's using him as one.
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I said:

SS, C, 2nd, CF, 3rd

It was C, SS, 2nd, CF, 3rd

Basically Deez...

My baseball knowledge > your baseball knowledge

(oh and ... there is only a 9.5 run differential between 3rd and LF )
And 1B, which you equated?
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maybe I need to take a deep breath from these game threads and not let everyone's inferior baseball knowledge get to me so much...

I have a hard time even being able to watch these games because every ****ing day someone will chirp in and say something absurd like...

"omg why would you take a gold glove left fielder and play him at 3rd when left field is so much more important than 3rd base...and the guy replacing LF is terrible even though he graded out as our best outfielder a year prior..."

Jesus. I just wasted 30 minutes of my ****ing life on that one. *DEEP BREATH*
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I don't see how he's using him as one.
I don't think he uses him enough. He tends to use him when more lefties are up, yet his splits shows better numbers against righties
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