Chiefs release KeiVarae Russell

[RunKC]

Rand Gettlin-I'm told the #Chiefs have released defensive back KeiVarae Russell. Special teams numbers game. Super talented player. Likely to be claimed.

WOW

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

8 posts out of 380 is "extremely butthurt"?

Ok, noob.

I do, however, find it comical that the same people that are defending Dorsey here and calling Russel; trash are the same ones that defend players like Dee Ford, Ehinger, etc and say "they need time" or they are "growing into the position."

It's a complete waste of draft capital to just walk away after a week, but then again, I'm arguing with someone who thinks DAT has value on this team when Hill does the same thing and does it better.

This place never disappoints.

I clearly said I wasn't happy about it, but I also have perspective and I'm not really that concerned. I also would've probably cut DAT or Davis. I would've said those same things about Russell if he were still on the team and struggling in the future.

Problem is, I don't know what went on behind the scenes, nor do you. So there might be more to the story (like what Miller said), and I'm willing to give Dorsey the benefit of the doubt. DJ White was a player a lot of people had as a day 2 pick, and he's looked like one so far. So again, why is it a big deal?

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Hoover

Yep, but we know Smith, and he knows our system.

Sure. But there is not upside to him. Gaines, Nelson, and the other young CBs have plenty of upside. Plus Smith was just torched by the Saints and benched. (Granted, Cooks will torch many CBs in this league before he's done.)

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hoover

Hopefully we are trading for Sean Smith.

[Mr. Laz]

As long as a WR is strong and skilled enough to get off the press, height doesn't really matter much.

High-pointing the ball is an asset but a specialized one.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And as mentioned, Antonio Brown is 5'10 and possibly the best WR in NFL.

Golden Tate, Jamison Crowder, Julian Edelman on and on and on.

Lots 5'10" and over, that's the benchmark height. I said under. Under 5'10" there are very few in the history of the league to do extremely well. Under 5'10", right now, not many. TY Hilton, Edelman, Smith are a few.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by CapsLockKey

I'm not saying he's good, but he may not be trash either. After Sundays game they made a decision to exchange an additional pass rusher over CB. Chiefs apparently saw more potential and immediate help in Nelson, Gaines, Acker and White.

From what he's shown in preseason he's PS material right now. Any team that claims him will be eating an active roster spot for someone that probably won't hit the field this year. Nothing like an Irving situation where he looked like he could contribute for someone right away, and did.

If you're the Browns or Rams or a whole slew of other teams that aren't going to play .500 football this year, you don't give any ****s about who your gameday inactives are.

He should be claimed unless his attitude is absolutely poison.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I do, however, find it comical that the same people that are defending Dorsey here and calling Russel; trash are the same ones that defend players like Dee Ford, Ehinger, etc and say "they need time" or they are "growing into the position".

What have you seen from Russell that leads you to believe that he's anything other than a wasted roster spot?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Lots 5'10" and over, that's the benchmark height. I said under. Under 5'10" there are very few in the history of the league to do extremely well. Under 5'10", right now, not many. TY Hilton, Edelman, Smith are a few.

Good grief, man, just stop.

Steve Smith was a monster in Carolina, Golden Tate's been a 1,000 yard receiver, Antonio Brown is lights out and on and on and on.

You're wrong. Give up.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Lots 5'10" and over, that's the benchmark height. I said under. Under 5'10" there are very few in the history of the league to do extremely well. Under 5'10", right now, not many. TY Hilton, Edelman, Smith are a few.

The fact that an inch can be the difference between you believing/not believing in a WR, and you're willing to ignore the vertical, good size, and other traits because of it, makes your opinion pretty worthless IMO.

You're basically saying you also would've never touched any of those guys that HAVE made it for that ridiculous inch. You realize that, right?

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by staylor26

The fact that an inch can be the difference between you believing/not believing in a WR, and you're willing to ignore the vertical and good size because of it, makes your opinion pretty worthless IMO.

Go look at history. I didn't say I don't believe in him. Give me the top 100 receivers under 5'10" to ever go for ... oh lets say 750 yards in a season.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If you're the Browns or Rams or a whole slew of other teams that aren't going to play .500 football this year, you don't give any ****s about who your gameday inactives are.

He should be claimed unless his attitude is absolutely poison.

If all of the information that's trickling in is correct, it's obviously his attitude and ego that led the Chiefs to waive him this early.

If he's that uncoachable, he doesn't have a place in the Chiefs locker room.

It's a shame, but it is what it is.

[kccrow]

And no, Staylor, I would not draft a receiver under 5'10".

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And as mentioned, Antonio Brown is 5'10 and possibly the best WR in NFL.

Golden Tate, Jamison Crowder, Julian Edelman on and on and on.

What's Russell Wilson and Drew Brees?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Go look at history. I didn't say I don't believe in him. Give me the top 100 receivers under 5'10" to ever go for ... oh lets say 750 yards in a season.

Dude, there are several good ones in the NFL RIGHT NOW. You're talking like it's never been done before, or it's a once in a lifetime, or even generation thing. Just stop.

[Mother****erJones]

Yah, I don't need to see Sean Smith getting roasted by Will Fuller or Hopkins.