**** OFFICIAL 2013-2014 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ****

[ArrowheadHawk]

#18 AP/ #20 Coaches (10-4,1-0)

Players

Spoiler!

Returning Players
1 Naadir Tharpe Guard 5-11 170 Jr.
3 Andrew White III Guard 6-6 210 So.
4 Justin Wesley Forward 6-9 220 RS Sr.
10 Evan Manning Guard 6-3 170 So.
11 Tyler Self Guard 6-2 165 So.
20 Niko Roberts Guard 5-11 175 Sr.
21 Christian Garrett Guard 6-3 185 Jr.
31 Jamari Traylor Forward 6-8 220 RS So.
33 Landen Lucas Forward 6-10 240 RS Fr.
34 Perry Ellis Forward 6-8 225 So.

Incoming Class
SF ***** Wayne Selden
C ***** Joel Embiid
PG **** Conner Frankamp
SF **** Brannen Greene
PG **** Frank Mason
SF ***** Andrew Wiggins

Transfers
Hunter Mickelson
Tarik Black

Non Conference
11/8/2013 Louisiana Monroe Lawrence, Kan. W(80-63) (1-0)
11/12/2013 Duke Chicago, Ill. W(94-83) (2-0)
11/19/2013 Iona Lawrence, Kan. W(86-66) (3-0)
11/22/2013 Towson W(88-58) (4-0)
11/28/2013 Wake Forest Paradise Island, Bahamas W(87-78) (5-0)
11/29/2013 Villanova Paradise Island, Bahamas L(59-63) (5-1)
11/30/2013 UTEP Paradise Island, Bahamas W(67-63) (6-1)
12/7/2013 Colorado Boulder, Colo. L(72-75) (6-2)
12/10/2013 Florida Gainesville, Fla. L(61-67) (6-3)
12/14/2013 New Mexico Kansas City, Mo. W(80-63)(7-3)
12/21/2013 Georgetown Lawrence, Kan. W(86-64)(8-3)
12/30/2013 Toledo Lawrence, Kan. W(93-83)(9-3)
1/5/2014 San Diego State Lawrence, Kan. L(57-61)(9-4)
Conference

Spoiler!

1/8/2014 Oklahoma Norman, Okla. W(90-83)(10-4,1-0)
1/11/2014 Kansas State Lawrence, Kan. 1 p.m.
1/13/2014 Iowa State Ames, Iowa 8 p.m.
1/18/2014 Oklahoma State Lawrence, Kan. 3 p.m.
1/20/2014 Baylor Lawrence, Kan. 8 p.m.
1/25/2014 TCU Fort Worth, Texas 8 p.m.
1/29/2014 Iowa State Lawrence, Kan. 8 p.m.
2/1/2014 Texas Austin, Texas 3 p.m.
2/4/2014 Baylor Waco, Texas 6 p.m.
2/8/2014 West Virginia Lawrence, Kan. 3 p.m.
2/10/2014 Kansas State Manhattan, Kan. 8 p.m.
2/15/2014 TCU Lawrence, Kan. 3 p.m.
2/18/2014 Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas 7 p.m.
2/22/2014 Texas Lawrence, Kan. 6:30 p.m.
2/24/2014 Oklahoma Lawrence, Kan. 8 p.m.
3/1/2014 Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. 8 p.m.
3/5/2014 Texas Tech Lawrence, Kan. 7 p.m.
3/8/2014 West Virginia Morgantown, W. Va. 11 a.m.
Big 12 Championship
3/12-15/2014 TBD Kansas City, Mo. TBD Details

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Ceej

And if we are being detailed and thorough I never said "foul" in my original post.

All I said was an "over the back" was missed.

Now, back to the conference realignment thread you go.

It was "missed"? How was it "missed"? Who missed it, and what would have happened had it not been "missed".

It's okay to admit that you didn't realize that you were unaware of the fact that this rule simply doesn't exist...or...you can go full Frankie.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Well...if you can't trust the announcer, who can you trust? Never mind that the next words out of his mouth were, "You don't let players decide the game in the sense that, if he fouls, it's a foul."

Clearly, he has the secret rule book page containing the mysterious "over the back" penalty...aka "the Sasquach" rule.

You are so ****ing stupid it's mind boggling.

[Ceej]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

It was "missed"? How was it "missed"? Who missed it, and what would have happened had it not been "missed".

It's okay to admit that you didn't realize that you were unaware of the fact that this rule simply doesn't exist...or...you can go full Frankie.

Florida's defender had his dick in Ellis' butt. I'm trying to paint you a picture I'm sure you're familiar with. They jumped simultaneously - and he swung his arm over Ellis' head. There was contact. It was a foul. Did I say it was an "over the back" foul?

But, I'm sure you were glued to the tv watching the game with your KU buddies.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Silock

You can go over the opponent's back as long as you don't touch him.

You can reach in as long as there isn't contact.

Neither are fouls.

The moment you get them with the body or touch them, it's a foul. This isn't hard.

That's like bitching because Champ Bailey didn't get called for face guarding. I mean, sure, if Bailey hits Bowe in the helmet while face guarding before the ball gets there, a penalty exists...that doesn't make face guarding illegal in the NFL. It just means he committed a different penalty altogether...different in the sense that...you know...it's an actual penalty.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Ceej

Florida's defender had his dick in Ellis' butt. I'm trying to paint you a picture I'm sure you're familiar with. They jumped simultaneously - and he swung his arm over Ellis' head. There was contact. It was a foul. Did I say it was an "over the back" foul?

But, I'm sure you were glued to the tv watching the game with your KU buddies.

Yes. The quoted portion is exactly what you posted.

And no, I wasn't watching it with my KU friends. I was watching it in a bar in Wisconsin. None of my KU friends bitch about non-existent rules.

The whole "dick in butt" thing is called boxing out by Ellis. It's just as illegal for a player to box out as it is for a player to go over the back...ie, it's not illegal.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

That's like bitching because Champ Bailey didn't get called for face guarding. I mean, sure, if Bailey hits Bowe in the helmet while face guarding before the ball gets there, a penalty exists...that doesn't make face guarding illegal in the NFL. It just means he committed a different penalty altogether...different in the sense that...you know...it's an actual penalty.

Look, you cannot go over an opponent's back in the sense that you cannot push them or make illegal contact in any way. Vertical is fine, but horizontal displacement is not. That's a foul.

That's what people are talking about when they cry "Over the back!" They're not saying that it's a foul because the opponent is behind the player; they're saying it because illegal contact occurred from behind.

What it's called is completely irrelevant. A foul is a foul.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Silock

Look, you cannot go over an opponent's back in the sense that you cannot push them or make illegal contact in any way. Vertical is fine, but horizontal displacement is not. That's a foul.

That's what people are talking about when they cry "Over the back!" They're not saying that it's a foul because the opponent is behind the player; they're saying it because illegal contact occurred from behind.

What it's called is completely irrelevant. A foul is a foul.

Hmmm,

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

You're a complete ****ing idiot. I'm truly blown away. You actually know nothing about basketball.

[Ceej]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Yes. The quoted portion is exactly what you posted.

And no, I wasn't watching it with my KU friends. I was watching it in a bar in Wisconsin. None of my KU friends bitch about non-existent rules.

You are terrible at misinterpreting then. It happens on the Internet.

But, -- of course, the whistle wasn't blown so it wasn't a foul when clearly it was. There was contact and the defender was over the back -- which again, I never called it an over the back foul.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Ceej

You are terrible at misinterpreting then. It happens on the Internet.

But, -- of course, the whistle wasn't blown so it wasn't a foul when clearly it was. There was contact and the defender was over the back -- which again, I never called it an over the back foul.

Okay, Frankie.

[Ceej]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Okay, Frankie.

Okay, worthless.

[Silock]

He called it "over the back," but the portion he pointed out was when the player FROM BEHIND displaced the opponent and made illegal contact.

That's a foul, clear as day. If he had jumped straight up, there wouldn't have been a problem with the no-call.

[Mr. Plow]

Wait, what? You can't go through a player to get a rebound....that's called a foul.


EDIT: I quoted the wrong one. This is directly at Saul, not Silock.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

You are right, I didn't even think of that. Looks like it has to be FLA. I'd hate to see some shitbox team come into Mecca. Although itd be funny as hell for the SEC to sacrifice the Mizzouchebags to the altar with no return trip back to CoMo

Self talked on his radio show the other day that KU does have a say in it and that they won't be playing MU, period.

[noa]

Over the back is absolutely a foul. It's just not a literal term, it refers to what Silock described. Anyone who claims there's no such foul is ignorant of the terminology and rules.
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[Lzen]

Saul is trying to make himself look smart, but it's actually doing the opposite.