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Think about how boring that would be to watch. That's basically what the WWE is now. The only guys with even remotely innovative offense (Bourne, Morrison, RVD in his time) aren't and weren't given a chance to shine. There's no variety to the product. No tag division, no cruisers, no IC or midcard fueds of any interest. The one guy at the top of the card who has a slightly different approach is Jeff Hardy, but he's basically only a spot monkey. He can't tell a story worth a damn.
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04-07-2009, 10:24 PM | #4097 |
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Thanks. I thought it was p. good. I was able to invoke both the poster Big Rock, who has defended HHH on this forum, and reference Kid Rock, who stunk up Reliant Stadium on Sunday.
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04-07-2009, 10:28 PM | #4098 |
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Oh, and Benjamin was buried b/c of his tendency to botch moves at times and his inability to talk.
Carlito was buried for his attitude (supposedly) and the idea that he half-asses it at times (who knows). HHH took great interest in burying Carlito in the Fall of '07 on one of the first stops of his Quadfest II: Burial, the Reunion.
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04-07-2009, 10:31 PM | #4099 |
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IIRC, They set up a match btw. Carlito and HHH where Carlito was allowed to use weapons and H couldn't, and Trips still squashed his ass.
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04-07-2009, 10:33 PM | #4100 | |
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Thanks for the info on those two. They seemed to be pushing both of those guys pretty hard and fast. Carlito was like top two or three villian with his dumbass apple bit, and Benjamin scored a couple of suprise pins on HHH. I half expected to hear that Hun-tor got vaginitis over the attention they were getting, and went crying to daddy-in-law about it. |
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04-07-2009, 10:54 PM | #4102 |
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Personally I think Triple H's greatest moment is his Wrestlemania match with Warrior.
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The Ultimate Warrior didnt draw big money. I am sure he sold a lot of tshirts and all, but his run on top in 1990 was a disaster. House show business tanked. The company went running right back to Hogan after less than a year.
Shawn Michaels didnt draw well in his year in top in 1996 either, but WWF was taking it hard from WCW and the nWo for most of that year. Warrior had no such excuse for his run. Also consider that Warrior completely collapsed from strength of the Hogan era, while the title run for Shawn was precceded by a year of Nash, one of the worst drawing champions of all time, and a few months of Bret, who also wasnt a terribly strong draw on top (though better than everyone else mentioned). Over the course of Shawns career, he has probably made WWE twenty times the money Warrior ever did. To say otherwise is completely insane. |
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04-07-2009, 11:28 PM | #4105 |
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No offense to your opinion but there is not a more overrated wrestler in the history of wrestling when it comes to drawing and making money than Shawn Michaels. People like him because he can work matches. Shawn Michaels is the wrestler that was on top when they came very near going out of business...
It's of course cool to rip on Warrior but I will guarantee you this he has more name value appeal than pretty much 99% of wrestlers who have ever wrestled. And this idea that he was never a draw is pretty absurd, of course he tanked in comparison to Hogan in ****ing 1990 most everyone would. |
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I only know this because I recently saw it, but Randy Orton RKOd him and pinned him in a tag match during the DX/Rated RKO feud. And I am just going off memory here, but didnt Edge spear him when he won the belt at Survivor Series? |
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04-07-2009, 11:40 PM | #4108 |
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He lost to Edge because Jeff Hardy hit H with a chair...
I also don't recall him being pinned with an RKO, I recall him losing a last man standing match. |
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But phrasing it a certain way makes the argument look stronger than it is. Which is why such things are usually a waste of time. |
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04-07-2009, 11:48 PM | #4110 |
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I think it's phrased that way to avoid this line..."he lost to Jeff Hardy" you know not factoring in that, that win was made to look like a total fluke and treated as such.
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