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Junior Seau dead, probable suicide
North County Times reporting Seau "found dead by a housekeeper of a gunshot wound to the chest."
https://twitter.com/#!/LATimesfarmer...55054793560065 Junior Seau Dead Cops Investigating Shooting Cops are currently at Seau's home just outside San Diego. Seau was 43-years-old ... and leaves behind 3 kids and an ex-wife. Seau was a beast in the NFL -- skyrocketing to fame thanks to his explosive play with the San Diego Chargers, Miami Dolphins and New England Patriots. The USC standout was selected in the first round of the NFL draft in 1990 and played in the league for 20 years. Seau was involved in a car accident back in 2010 when he drove his SUV off a cliff in Carlsbad, CA hours after he was arrested for allegedly attacking his girlfriend. Seau later said he was not trying to kill himself ... insisting he had fallen asleep at the wheel. http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/02/junior-seau-dead/ Last edited by Quesadilla Joe; 05-02-2012 at 12:35 PM.. |
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05-03-2012, 05:51 AM | #406 |
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Sucks, dude was bad ass. RIP brother.
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05-03-2012, 05:53 AM | #407 |
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The point to me is, suicide is NOT something done by people of sound mind. Maybe he should have gotten help, and maybe he had moments of lucidity when that was possible. End of the day though, it's obvious that people who commit suicide are NOT in their right minds. It goes against any natural instinct of self preservation we all have. To go against that instinct is to be truly insane. Therefore, Junior Seau was insane, and it manifested itself in the form of violence and finally suicide. It IS tragic, (whether you think he was just being selfish or not) that he came to the conclusion that everyone would be better off without him.
His mom's video broke my heart. I can't even watch it all. This whole thing is horrible.
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05-03-2012, 06:06 AM | #409 | |
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I was not trying to make an "excuse" for what Seau did, I imagine however, that I was where he was in the days and hours leading up to his suicide. I was lucky, there was someone there to save.. not because I called them but just because they were there. I am glad that person was there. I really just wish Junior had gotten the help he needed before it was too late.
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It's tragic that he felt this was his only way out. I feel bad for his mother. |
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05-03-2012, 07:29 AM | #413 |
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Like Phil, I detest suicide. But unlike Phil, I refuse to damn a person that is in so much pain(a pain that I will never know) that the actually end their own life. There is so much in this world that I do not understand, and this is one of them.
I feel that I am a spiritual person and refuse to judge another person. Espeially on is so much pain. Even though I detest his action, I feel sarrow for him, his family and friends. |
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If you kill yourself due to depression, you are probably an ego-driven idiot who cared about yourself more than your family.
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If suicide was just random out of the blue crazy, we should be seeing wealthy and happily married people suddenly snapping at the same rate as everyone else, but they don't. Somehow, when you are handed a divorce or you are staring down the barrel of bankruptcy (like Seau), you tend to kill yourself a lot more often. Though insane people killing themselves does happen, that is not random insanity, that is ego-driven "if I can't have her/money, then I don't want to live", without much thought for family.
Automatically presuming all people who kill themselves were crazy, and we need to try to understand their pain and not come down on them seems like enabling to me. Many people who kill themselves want everyone to know how much of a tortured soul they were and react by sympathetically trying to understand them. If they knew instead that the reaction would be very negative, that after the shock and grief wears off we'd all remember them with anger as someone who was selfish, maybe they would think twice. If we incorrectly tarnish the memory of someone who was really crazy, so what? They are dead, we're not hurting them.
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This journalist says it was the hard hits Junior took over time in a safety lax pre Roger Goodell era that led to his suicide, and absolutely nothing else. The writer suggests Goodell has no choice put to pussify the league even more if we seriously want to prevent this tragedy from happening again. Really...
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Not to make light of the sitation, but Junior was a Defensive Player - I'm of the opinion watching Goodell constantly neuter the defenses will INCREASE suicide risk in ex defensive players more than DECREASE it. JMO. |
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