Chiefs Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley? - Page 28

**BossChief** · 12-07-2011, 11:54 PM

I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable.

His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones.

For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience.

This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on.

All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL.

I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)?

I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out.

Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-09-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Let's not go full reerun. Herms picks played well for being rookies and those guys evolved naturally.

Hali and DJ?? under herm sucked.

**DeezNutz** · 12-09-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Lets not get crazy HALEY has made herm picks play unlike herm

Yes. His unwillingness to play Charles and DJ clearly unlocked their potential. And Bowe was complete shit prior to experiencing Haley's WR prowess. Wait...

Hammock Parties · 12-09-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

You are a dumbass if u think haley is worse then herm

Herm was hired by two NFL franchises and won a couple of playoff games.

At this point Haley's going to have to do a lot of bootlicking over the next two or three years to get another head-coaching gig, let alone even qualify for the playoffs again.

**DeezNutz** · 12-09-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

You are a dumbass if u think haley is worse then herm

Get back to me when Haley wins a road playoff game as a HC. My guess is that it will never happen.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-09-2011, 08:44 PM

You 3 guys might kill yourself when haley is back here next year.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-09-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Get back to me when Haley wins a road playoff game as a HC. My guess is that it will never happen.

Has herm nope goodbye

Titty Meat · 12-09-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Right. You base your opinion on rumor and speculation without a fact involved, and I'm the dumbass.

It's not a fact that Haley didn't get along with Pioli's hand picked OC?

**DeezNutz** · 12-09-2011, 08:45 PM

Nope. Anyone who is emotionally invested in this organization at this point is beyond misguided.

**notorious** · 12-09-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

You are a dumbass if u think haley is worse then herm

Herm was horrific, but Haley surpasses Herm for offensive ineptitude.

Haley better thank Christ that this defense is a lot better than what Herm had. If not, we would probably have 1 or 2 wins this year.

**DeezNutz** · 12-09-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Has herm nope goodbye

Pull 'em up, dude. Something is showing.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-09-2011, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

It's not a fact that Haley didn't get along with Pioli's hand picked OC?

Weis laughed at the dumbass kc media today when they ask him about haley and him not getting along. Weis was like i left cause of family nothing more as you can see his son followed him to kansas. I'll take weis at his word over made up crap .

**BossChief** · 12-09-2011, 08:48 PM

I dont think its a coincidence that the only moves that havent worked out were the ones forced on Haley.

Gailey
Weis
Cassel

The only really significant strike against Haley IMO is his love for Failco and I think if Orton wouldn't have been hurt, Failco wouldn't have been able to get back on the field.

splatbass · 12-09-2011, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

It's not a fact that Haley didn't get along with Pioli's hand picked OC?

Which OC are you talking about? Gailey was a leftover from Herm. There is no proof that Haley and Weis didn't get along, just speculation. So who the **** are you talking about? Show me some proof of your allegation.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-09-2011, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Pull 'em up, dude. Something is showing.

I'm not hurt i know haley will be coaching the chiefs next year.

Titty Meat · 12-09-2011, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Weis laughed at the dumbass kc media today when they ask him about haley and him not getting along. Weis was like i left cause of family nothing more as you can see his son followed him to kansas. I'll take weis at his word over made up crap .

He also said how happy his little girl was down in Florida so he goes and takes a job thousands of miles away.

Weis is full of shit. Keep re-tweeting stuff because other than sucking Haleys hungover cawk it's all your good at.

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yes, it would be a mistake. Haley deserves a shot with a healthy squad he built.	142	61.21%
No. Ive seen enough. Next, please.	79	34.05%
Im not voting in any of these things till I see what GAZ thinks.	11	4.74%
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12-07-2011, 11:54 PM
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1615912	Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley? I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable. His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones. For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience. This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on. All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL. I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)? I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out. Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?
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ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $1276009	You 3 guys might kill yourself when haley is back here next year.
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1615912	I dont think its a coincidence that the only moves that havent worked out were the ones forced on Haley. Gailey Weis Cassel The only really significant strike against Haley IMO is his love for Failco and I think if Orton wouldn't have been hurt, Failco wouldn't have been able to get back on the field. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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