Chiefs Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley? - Page 27

**BossChief** · 12-07-2011, 11:54 PM

I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable.

His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones.

For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience.

This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on.

All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL.

I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)?

I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out.

Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?

**DeezNutz** · 12-09-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

I was quoting that dumbass Splatbass.

I don't think i'd go as far to say Herm was a better coach though.

I am. And I'm right.

Herm was a very poor NFL HC; Haley is simply not an NFL HC. He's the NFL version of Trey Hillman.

Hammock Parties · 12-09-2011, 08:24 PM

Tony Gonzalez was prepared to enter 2009 with Herm and Thigpen leading his franchise. Brian Waters was in Herm's court.

Yep, clearly in "quit" mode.

Titty Meat · 12-09-2011, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I am. And I'm right.

Herm was a very poor NFL HC; Haley is simply not an NFL HC. He's the NFL version of Trey Hillman.

How so? Herm was a secondary coach/scout at best. Haley is a WR coach/ Offensive OC at best.

Both suck and i'm not really interested in debating who's "better".

jd1020 · 12-09-2011, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

How so? Herm was a secondary coach/scout at best. Haley is a WR coach/ Offensive OC at best.

Both suck and i'm not really interested in debating who's "better".

It's hard to call Haley a coordinator of anything when he cant even coordinate plays in to the QB.

**DeezNutz** · 12-09-2011, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

How so? Herm was a secondary coach/scout at best. Haley is a WR coach/ Offensive OC at best.

Both suck and i'm not really interested in debating who's "better".

Herm was a clown, but Haley has done some of the most incalculably stupid shit that I've ever seen from a HC. Plus he can't seem to get along with many of his staff members (see: OC), and he's often embarrassed the organization (see: post-game antics and whining).

Trey Hillman, hired by '09 Dayton Moore's doppelganger.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-09-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Herm was a clown, but Haley has done some of the most incalculably stupid shit that I've ever seen from a HC. Plus he can't seem to get along with many of his staff members (see: OC), and he's often embarrassed the organization (see: post-game antics and whining).

Trey Hillman, hired by '09 Dayton Moore's doppelganger.

Herm 15 wins as a chiefs coach in 3 years

Haley 19 wins under 3 years

**DeezNutz** · 12-09-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Herm 15 wins as a chiefs coach in 3 years

Haley 19 wins under 3 years

Herm had a better offense. /Thread

Titty Meat · 12-09-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Herm was a clown, but Haley has done some of the most incalculably stupid shit that I've ever seen from a HC. Plus he can't seem to get along with many of his staff members (see: OC), and he's often embarrassed the organization (see: post-game antics and whining).

Trey Hillman, hired by '09 Dayton Moore's doppelganger.

Meh Haley actually made the playoffs which is more than Hillman or Moore will ever accomplish.

Haley has done some stupid shit but I always thought Herm's conservative play calling was equally as stupid and would kill momentum.

I think Haley could be a good head coach down the road but he's gotta be fired after the season.

Titty Meat · 12-09-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Herm 15 wins as a chiefs coach in 3 years

Haley 19 wins under 3 years

Haley had much more talent to coach too.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-09-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Herm had a better offense. /Thread

But herm was D coach why the D suck so bad?

Hammock Parties · 12-09-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

But herm was D coach why the D suck so bad?

Because Herm sucked hard.

Haley sucks harder.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-09-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Haley had much more talent to coach too.

Lets not get crazy HALEY has made herm picks play unlike herm

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-09-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega

Because Herm sucked hard.

Haley sucks harder.

You are a dumbass if u think haley is worse then herm

Titty Meat · 12-09-2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Lets not get crazy HALEY has made herm picks play unlike herm

Let's not go full reerun. Herms picks played well for being rookies and those guys evolved naturally.

splatbass · 12-09-2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

I was quoting that dumbass Splatbass.

Right. You base your opinion on rumor and speculation without a fact involved, and I'm the dumbass.

Here's the deal, only 21% of the people agree with you. Maybe that should tell you something.

View Poll Results: Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley?
yes, it would be a mistake. Haley deserves a shot with a healthy squad he built.	142	61.21%
No. Ive seen enough. Next, please.	79	34.05%
Im not voting in any of these things till I see what GAZ thinks.	11	4.74%
Voters: 232. You may not vote on this poll

12-07-2011, 11:54 PM
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1615912	Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley? I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable. His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones. For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience. This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on. All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL. I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)? I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out. Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?
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