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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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So why does Bowe get the benefit of the doubt about having shitty qb's, when Baldwin had Palko throwing to him for the majority of his games last year?
Might have something to do with more yards than Otis Taylor and Tony Gonzalez.
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I can't understand why he only got 5 last year. It's so mysterious.
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Might have something to do with more yards than Otis Taylor and Tony Gonzalez.
Oh I'm not trying to knock Bowe, although it did sound like I was.



Just stating that Baldwin had Palko throwing him the ball for the most part last year, then the upgrade of Matt Cassel, and Kyle Orton.
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So touchdowns figure more prominently in your equation than overall production. By this logic, Marc Boerigter should have gotten a massive deal based on his 8 TD, 20something reception year of 2003.

Based on his overall work, and based on the poop that we've had playing under center for Bowe's entire career here, he has done every bit of everything he possibly could have. Bowe can't score touchdowns if they don't target him on a constant basis in the red zone.
He is. He's about the only guy targeted.
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So why does Bowe get the benefit of the doubt about having shitty qb's, when Baldwin had Palko throwing to him for the majority of his games last year?
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The Chiefs were 29th in red zone possessions so I'm sure that doesn't factor in.

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The Chiefs were 29th in red zone possessions so I'm sure that doesn't factor in.

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No, they aren't. If a team believes that they have a shot at a franchise QB, they don't pass. Not unless they have a guy ala Rams. It is proven QB is more important than oxygen.
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I wonder if Bowe would produce more if his team threw more.

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I wonder if Bowe would produce more if his team threw more.

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Threw more in 2011 than 2010
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I wonder if Bowe would produce more if his team threw more.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat...ate=2011-02-07
Jesus.



We potentially have some pretty solid wr and te's. We have a badass #1 wr who is gonna wanna show that he's a bad ass.



We just don't have someone to get them the ball.
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I wonder if Bowe would produce more if his team threw more.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat...ate=2011-02-07
How many times was Bowe targeted? How does that compare to elite receivers?
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No shit, we didn't have Charles to get us there.
What is the amount of guaranteed dollars you think would be OK for Bowe? At this point, you seem to be trolling and nothing else.
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