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Old 12-11-2012, 10:06 AM  
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2013 QB Class

This was posted in another thread by Milkman, but it got overlooked so I'm making a thread out of it.

I know, another QB thread. But this needs to be put out there for some of the "posters" here to see and think about.

The top three in this years class are in no particular order:

Geno Smith
Tyler Wilson
Matt Barkley

Thats not counting Bray, Glennon, Nassib, etc. Who are all talented in their own right.

So, many posters here want to say, "no not this year, this class is awful don't take one, there isn't a Luck or RGIII in the bunch", which isn't necessarily false.

No there isn't a once in a decade guy. Which is probably what Luck was. Hell even more there have been 2 guys of his stature come out in the last 20 or so years. Luck and Manning.

Yet there are franchise QB's all over the league. How is that so you may ask?

Lets take a look at the last 5 QB classes top 3 guys to come out and get drafted, taking out 2012's class.

2007
Jamarcus Russel
Brady Quinn
Kevin Kolb

2008
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Brian Brohm

2009
Matt Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman

2010
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen

2011
Cam Newton
Blaine Gabbert
Jake Locker

Look at those classes and no, you have to evaluate them at the time they were picked, not what they are now, we don't know what this years class will be in the NFL.

I'd argue that this years class is more loaded than any of those classes at the top and from top to bottom.

So, you wanna argue that this isn't a year to take a QB? I'll argue that its a great year to take a QB.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:00 AM   #406
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Most people want a first round Qb. Don't know where you guys are getting the Teo/Smith thing from.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:01 AM   #407
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Here's the thing about them playing Pryor - he's an instinctive runner. No, he's not Cam Newton but he's definitely not CARSON PALMER.

If they play to Pryor's strengths, we'll have trouble stopping them.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:02 AM   #408
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Here's the thing about them playing Pryor - he's an instinctive runner. No, he's not Cam Newton but he's definitely not CARSON PALMER.

If they play to Pryor's strengths, we'll have trouble stopping them.
God I hope so.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:03 AM   #410
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:03 AM   #411
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I'd go for Bray honestly. The kid's a big risk, but Bray was in a bad situation in Tennessee with WRs with no hands with a shitty Head Coach.
He should have no problem fitting in here then
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:10 AM   #413
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He should have no problem fitting in here then
Seriously, the kid's situation is very similar to Marino's when he was at Pitt.Then Dan got into the pros and took his job seriously. If Bray does that, and it's all dependent on his drive to hone his abilities the best he can. He has the natural talent to be a superstar if he works at it .
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You mean the same SOC that has 100,000+ facebook and twitter followers? I don't know why this forum loves validating stupid views by acting like the majority of people support them. Most people support getting a first round Qb. Yeah there are a few people who don't, but who cares about them? There were colts fan last year that didn't want to get Luck either, so there are stupid fans on every team. Don't know why people here and the SOC facebook can't ignore them instead of trying to argue with them and giving validity to their views.
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You mean the same SOC that has 100,000+ facebook and twitter followers? I don't know why this forum loves validating stupid views by acting like the majority of people support them. Most people support getting a first round Qb. Yeah there are a few people who don't, but who cares about them? There were colts fan last year that didn't want to get Luck either, so there are stupid fans on every team. Don't know why people here and the SOC facebook can't ignore them instead of trying to argue with them and giving validity to their views.
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The consensus view I hear is that there isn't a QB worth taking this year and that Geno is Vince Young. Seriously.
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Like he said, if you listen to the radio or look at websites other than this one, there's a HUGE group of people that would rather take a LB and acquire Alex Smith than take a QB #1 overall.
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You mean the same SOC that has 100,000+ facebook and twitter followers? I don't know why this forum loves validating stupid views by acting like the majority of people support them. Most people support getting a first round Qb. Yeah there are a few people who don't, but who cares about them? There were colts fan last year that didn't want to get Luck either, so there are stupid fans on every team. Don't know why people here and the SOC facebook can't ignore them instead of trying to argue with them and giving validity to their views.
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About 6 out of every 10 callers to 810 over the last couple of weeks would rather have Alex Smith than Geno Smith.
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Like he said, if you listen to the radio or look at websites other than this one, there's a HUGE group of people that would rather take a LB and acquire Alex Smith than take a QB #1 overall.
Sometimes Chiefsplanet clouds my perception of the rest of the world. But you're absolutely right. I can't believe how many of friends - people that I watch and discuss Chiefs football with on a daily/weekly basis, people I thought I knew and understood and liked - are clamoring for Alex Smith + LB with our first pick. I'm totally outnumbered. EVERYONE I talk to IRL wants us to pass on a QB with our first pick and grab one later.
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God I hope so.
I saw pretty much every game of Pryor's at tOSU.

He came out too early (even though he didn't really have a choice after the scandal) and needs a ton of development in the passing game...

But he's a natural athlete with a lot of moxy.

I think he rapes the Chiefs. I mean, how many chances is he going to get? This is his chance to make sure he's not competing for a job with Geno Smith next year.
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Sometimes Chiefsplanet clouds my perception of the rest of the world. But you're absolutely right. I can't believe how many of friends - people that I watch and discuss Chiefs football with on a daily/weekly basis, people I thought I knew and understood and liked - are clamoring for Alex Smith + LB with our first pick. I'm totally outnumbered. EVERYONE I talk to IRL wants us to pass on a QB with our first pick and grab one later.
I seriously can't talk football with people like that. It's just too irritating. People that don't understand/can't comprehend the importance of a franchise QB and don't have some level of competence in understanding personnel I seriously can't talk football with. I just have to smile, nod, and say "Yeah, that sounds great".

Someone suggested drafting Lattimore 1st round earlier this year, I shit you not.
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