ProFootballFocus. QBs in Focus: Alex Smith

[ViperVisor]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...us-alex-smith/

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[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

All shit.

Canadian midgets are where it's at.

With upgrades like that it appears the front office joins you in hating Alex smith.
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[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

**** excuses.

A QB's job is to make those around him better. And he did that in the first half, which everyone conveniently IGNORES.

So it's Alex Smith's fault that the running game fell apart?

It's Alex Smith's fault that the defense was historically bad?

Should we ignore that we were forced to march Cyrus Gray out there in the 4th and that AJ Jenkins was honest to god our #2 receiver?

Do you really think Smith has veto power to trump Andy Reid on his moronic playcalling?

When Smith throws a 3rd down and 4th down pass to Bowe that kills a drive on a drop most receivers would not make, that's on him too?

How are those excuses? There is not a damn thing Smith was going to do to fix those problems. The playcalling in the second half was awful, the running game was awful, and minus Avery we had probably one of the worst receiving corps in the league let alone the playoffs. That's what Smith had to contend with. And despite that, he got 12 first downs, 143 yards, and threw a pass that should have won us the game had our receiver done his job.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Why do you keep acting as if 12 first downs means something?

You can't milk the clock AND score? Did I miss a new rule?

And the three drives before that weren't critical? I guess in your eyes they're not - because if they were, two of them being less than 1:30 in length would destroy your argument. One of those being extended doesn't leave Indy enough time.

Guess what. He plays the most important position in the sport. If he can't handle the pressure of extending one ****ing drive, or maybe scoring more than 3 points without getting the ball inside the 20 yard line, then he can GTFO. Handling pressure is his ****ing job.

[SAUTO]

The pass was a little outside, not perfect.
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[OnTheWarpath15]

You seem to have an excuse for everything but the fumble.

(probably because even you can't excuse it, because even a punt there along with Indy making up the field position likely leaves Indy without time at the end)

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

The pass was a little outside, not perfect.
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It was not an easy catch for Bowe to make. But it was a makeable play on an extremely difficult throw in the most critical of situations. Any good receiver in a playoff situation has to make that catch.

[OnTheWarpath15]

And just think - if we convert more than 2/7 on 3rd down, we're kneeling instead of depending on a WR to make a great catch.

[ViperVisor]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And just think - if we convert more than 2/7 on 3rd down, we're kneeling instead of depending on a WR to make a great catch.

THE COLTS HAD ONLY 2 GOSH DARN THIRD DOWN PLAYS AS THEY SCORED 5 TDS.

And they were 2/2 of those. Never had a 4th down in the 2nd half.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Why do you keep acting as if 12 first downs means something?

Think about the craziness of what you're proposing. You play down his first downs because they happened on first down. You know why he was passing on first down? Because his running game disappeared. You know what an average run offense does to protect the lead? They run the ball on first down, often times on second down, and they set up a makeable third down. A good run offense should also eek out at least 2 or 3 first downs of their own.

You can't milk the clock AND score? Did I miss a new rule?

How in the world do you do that without a running game? And if the objective is to extend drives to keep the ball out of the defense's hand, it shouldn't matter if your offense scores when you're protecting a lead like that.

And the three drives before that weren't critical? I guess in your eyes they're not - because if they were, two of them being less than 1:30 in length would destroy your argument. One of those being extended doesn't leave Indy enough time.

So that's Smith's fault that Bowe duffed a pass on 3rd down? Drive killed.
You go well out of your way to make sure we know that the "gifted" 3 points on a field goal came from defense, and yet you don't have any problem asking why Smith had such a short time of possession on that drive?

You keep saying EXTEND ONE DRIVE. As if the Chiefs didn't extend a single drive in the second half. The Chiefs extended a drive 12 times. So I think you're the one who's being ultra-liberal about the terminology here, because according to you a first down doesn't count unless you get it on third down.

Guess what. He plays the most important position in the sport. If he can't handle the pressure of extending one ****ing drive, or maybe scoring more than 3 points without getting the ball inside the 20 yard line, then he can GTFO. Handling pressure is his ****ing job.

Good lord. There it is with "extend one drive."

He was asked to run out the clock with no running game. When he was put in a situation to be aggressive he ran a terrific 5-minute drive and then on the final drive, threw a makable fourth down conversion that was dropped. He handled the pressure. You have yet to tell me a single way he is going to get Knile Davis and Cyrus Gray extra yards. Why Smith should get blamed for Reid's moronic playcalling, which every single person acknowledges was crazy bad. Smith's job is to execute the plays sent in, hand the ball off to a RB and hope the RB gets yards, and put the ball in the place he's supposed to. He did that more than enough times to win the game on the second half to support a bad team. He apparently didn't do that enough to support a team that was epically bad from the top down.

[Carlota69]

Oh my ****ing god this shit again!!!! I knew as I clicked on the last page without reading any of this thread prior, that you guys would be arguing the same ol shit about AS and the playoffs and whether or not it was his fault or if he sucks. I use to have passion about the subject, then I was bored with it. Now, I find it hilarious!!!

Circles....

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

And just think - if we convert more than 2/7 on 3rd down, we're kneeling instead of depending on a WR to make a great catch.

Bowe should have caught one of those on 3rd and 5. That's 3/7.

Maybe our running game should have gotten a single first down for us. ONE.
Maybe our defense should have forced a single third down. ONE.

Instead, we are asking why a guy didn't get more than 12 first downs (which could have been 13 or 14, if Bowe makes two makeable catches).

[OnTheWarpath15]

That should cover it. I think every possible excuse has been mentioned at this point.

I'd queue up the TrueFan .gif, but I'm on my iPad.

2014 is going to be awesome. I may have to lurk after all here and there for some laughs.

[ViperVisor]

Do you want more GIFs?

I can show the 2nd and 12 Smith converted with a good pass just a fraction of a second before Mathis got to him because he was barely even slowed down.

Or the 2nd and 11 he ran for.

Jamaal Charles during the season got a 1st down or TD 1 out of every 3.6 rushes. *I think they count a TD as a 1st*
Even someone who sucked last year, MJD. Got 1 every 5.4.

Like it was shown here many times. 0 RB runs for a 1st down in the 2nd half. And they were not setting up 2nd/3rd and short scenarios either. They were running into the pile and happy to not fumble.
9 rushes for a 2.7 avg

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

That should cover it. I think every possible excuse has been mentioned at this point.

I'd queue up the TrueFan .gif, but I'm on my iPad.

2014 is going to be awesome. I may have to lurk after all here and there for some laughs.

Repeatedly saying Smith didn't extend one drive when he alone got 12 first downs with no help from the running game... then claiming that they don't count because most of them were on first downs, is an excuse for criticism.

Lumping in a drive on a short 28-yard field as a situation where we didn't extend a drive is an excuse. Especially when you say that drive was gifted.

Lumping in a drive where the pass was thrown to Bowe and he dropped it is blaming Smith for a drive he didn't kill.

Claiming Smith didn't do anything the last 26 minutes, even though he led two very good final drives in the 4th quarter.... one that milked 5 minutes of clock and led to a critical score, the second one that should have set up a game-winning field goal is an excuse for criticism.

Claiming that the last pass would have never happened if Smith did his job earlier in the game is an excuse for criticism.

Let's not act like one side is making excuses and the other isn't.

[ViperVisor]

Denver lead the NFL with 435 total 1st Downs
27.2 / game
13.5 / half

THERE IS VERY LITTLE ARGUMENT TO HOW THE OFFENSE COST KC IN THE 2ND HALF

The 2nd best team was New England and they were all the way down to 23.6 / game

12 in a half is actually better than the 2nd best team in the NFL and that's Smith and co on offense not doing enough to burn the clock?