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Thought they weren't good enough for the Big Whatever???
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Who planted that thought?
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The Big 12 is only willing to expand for Notre Dame.....unless of course FSU or anyone else is interested, then they will be invited.
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As discussed it appears the Big 12 is only interested in one school. They've pretty much stated that publicly and it has been discussed repeatedly in this thread. The Big 12 has achieved enormous payouts via media contracts with only 10 teams which is remarkable considering that other conferences need as many as 14 to be considered valuable. __________________
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Well, since it was known that FSU was interested, the B12 has been interested in FSU. Texas beats a loud drum for ND, which would absolutely add value, but they haven't been the "only one".
FSU absoultely adds value in name recognition, market value and recruiting territory. The reports I am familiar with listed only three schools as added value from the ACC: FSU, VPI and Clemson. Miami would have, but the recent shadow over the program has made them rather toxic. From there it is fairly cost neutral to lower value. The bigger scuttlebutt was over #12. Clemson was thought to be the better option, but relations have gone cold. This, of course, could change quickly if the SEC goes poaching in the ACC as well. VPI was believed to be an SEC target, and rumors persist there is a "gentlemen's agreement" between the B12 and SEC on who each will pursue. That means that only ND is left as a school that "adds value" to the conference. It had the added bonus of no withdrawl fees. Louisville, Maryland and a few others would definitely like to be in the conference, but the B12 is being stingy with the invites. I know its a difficult concept for some to accept, but the B12 is actually in a position of strength regarding expansion, they don't have to accept members just to survive. They will add if the overall value of doing so is beneficial to the B12 member, which FSU clearly is. Now, if you get ND as a full member #12, that's the home run. Since that doesn't seem to be the sentiment as of today, the B12 will play 11, like the B!G did, until it gets what it wants, probably Clemson, but maybe G Tech, or even Lousiville. If the SEC takes some bites, maybe the B!G follows, and all of a sudden schools with cold feet are ready to dance again. The other huge factor is what happens if the SEC does go to 16? I imagine they will petition for (and get) conference semi-final games. Once that value is determined, the overall value of teams considered neutal to slightly below, will increase, and the B!G and B12 will move to 16 to cash in as well.
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Now tweets are coming in, tapping the brakes again, saying "nothing is agreed to" and "parties are still waiting on Notre Dame". Could mean a lot of different things.
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I agree with every word atomic noodle wrote.
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and that leads us to Kansas...Missouri pops on the screen
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