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Old 04-17-2014, 09:33 PM  
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**2014 Official NBA Playoffs Thread**
Round 1:

EAST:

#8 Hawks @ #1 Pacers
#7 Bobcats @ #2 Heat
#6 Nets @ #3 Raptors
#5 Wizards @ #4 Bulls

WEST:
#8 Mavericks @ #1 Spurs
#7 Grizzlies @ #2 Thunder
#6 Warriors @ #3 Clippers
#5 Blazers @ #4 Rockets
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:33 AM   #4306
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Everywhere he goes his teammates aren't good enough. I see a theme here. I'm sick of the excuses. Like I said one of those teammates bailed him out in last years finals.
I can assure you, I'm more sick of arguing with a moron.
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:34 AM   #4307
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Some would argue that it's insulting to LeBron to suggest that a player who was only better at scoring than him (and nothing else in the game of basketball) is at a place he could never reach (despite the fact that he's well on pace to do so in many areas).
This is absolutely one of the dumbest things you have ever said.

MJ obviously is a better scorer but he was also a better defender, averaged more steals , 2 x time Defensive Player of the Year, less turnovers, better FT's shooter, #1 in win shares and #1 in PER.

Currently Lebron averages 1 more rebound a game and about 2 assists. Does anybody in their right mind believe if MJ wanted to lead the league in assists he was so untalented he couldn't? Or rebounds for that matter. Give me a break.
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:39 AM   #4308
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This is absolutely one of the dumbest things you have ever said.
What was MJ better at beyond scoring? Because it certainly wasn't defense, passing, or rebounding. LeBron is just as good if not superior in all those areas.


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Currently Lebron averages 1 more rebound a game and about 2 assists. Does anybody in their right mind believe if MJ wanted to lead the league in assists he was so untalented he couldn't? Or rebounds for that matter. Give me a break.
Pretty sure you could make the same argument about LeBron being able to average 35+ points a game at will, no?
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MJ 6-0 in finals

LeBron soon to be 2-3 in finals.

Lebron, I saw MJ play.....and you sir are no Michael Jordan.
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:41 AM   #4310
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I can assure you, I'm more sick of arguing with a moron.
Oh I'm the moron? Funny how you are avoiding the fact that Ray Allen bailed his ass out last year too. But his teammates aren't good enough? They're good enough to put him in the finals four years in a row. And if your argument is he carried them there, then why can't he carry them just a little further?
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:41 AM   #4311
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Yep, totally delusional not to blame LeBron for his teammates not being good enough. I should just join in the groupthink hater brigrade like everyone else, it would be far easier.
Its a bunch of PMS teenage girls when it comes to LeBron especially Bulls fans. One minute everybody bitching about them becoming a dominating dynasty, next they are saying break the team up.

Why in the hell should he leave Miami? You have an owner who is top 5 in wealth and isn't afraid to spend, plus isn't a douche owner. You have Pat Riley as general manager who will go out and make the team the better. Not to mention he has loads of experience with all time great players. Spo is a very underrated coach. A state with no income tax, in a city that attracts major talent. Its about the most perfect situation he can be in.
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:41 AM   #4312
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MJ 6-0 in finals

LeBron soon to be 2-3 in finals.

Lebron, I saw MJ play.....and you sir are no Michael Jordan.
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Easy to say. But if you put LeBron on the Bulls teams and MJ on the Cavs/Heat teams, who would have won more titles? I think we both know the answer.
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:42 AM   #4313
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Oh I'm the moron? Funny how you are avoiding the fact that Ray Allen bailed his ass out last year too. But his teammates aren't good enough? They're good enough to put him in the finals four years in a row. And if your argument is he carried them there, then why can't he carry them just a little further?
Quite right, dumbass. His teammates were totally good enough this series. Carry on with your LeBron hating, I won't stop you.
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Old 06-13-2014, 10:43 AM   #4314
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John Paxton and Steve Kerr bailed Jordan's ass out as well. Let's not act like Jordan scored every point for the Bulls.
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John Paxton and Steve Kerr bailed Jordan's ass out as well. Let's not act like Jordan scored every point for the Bulls.
I'm not the one making excuses about the team not being good enough. So that's irrelevant.
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I wonder if you guys make these same excuses people try to make for Peyton.
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Its a bunch of PMS teenage girls when it comes to LeBron especially Bulls fans. One minute everybody bitching about them becoming a dominating dynasty, next they are saying break the team up.

Why in the hell should he leave Miami? You have an owner who is top 5 in wealth and isn't afraid to spend, plus isn't a douche owner. You have Pat Riley as general manager who will go out and make the team the better. Not to mention he has loads of experience with all time great players. Spo is a very underrated coach. A state with no income tax, in a city that attracts major talent. Its about the most perfect situation he can be in.
Bulls fans have MJ's legacy to be concerned about, of course. It's a primary reason LeBron has gotten as much hate as he has in his career. They remain threatened by him.

LeBron could very well stay in Miami, but they clearly need a hell of a lot more than they have right now. Wade is an obvious shell of his former self, he's no longer even capable of those great games that he had in last year's Finals. And I don't know whether Bosh's skills have regressed (it seems like he still has it in him at times), but he seems content with being a spot shooter and is a long way from what he was in Toronto. It is funny, though, that some people in this thread were whining about not wanting to watch NBA basketball anymore because of these same players just a few days ago.
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Bulls fans have MJ's legacy to be concerned about, of course. It's a primary reason LeBron has gotten as much hate as he has in his career. They remain threatened by him.
Well he thought Rose and Noah would be shit to play with for one.
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LeBron is still great. I just won't root for Miami to ever win anything. **** Miami. **** the entire state of Florida's sports teams.

**** Texas and all of their teams as well for that matter; but here I'll take the lesser of two evils as Tim Duncan is the ****ing man.
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What was MJ better at beyond scoring? Because it certainly wasn't defense, passing, or rebounding. LeBron is just as good if not superior in all those areas.



Pretty sure you could make the same argument about LeBron being able to average 35+ points a game at will, no?
I just told you he was a better defender, better FT shooter etc. MJ was a 2x Defensive Player of the Year, Lebron hasn't one yet.

Yes I have no doubt.
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