Chiefs Jared Allen is a Viking - Page 29

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10:42 PM

According to Adam Sheffter of NFLN.

Just saw on the ticker.

Chiefs receive the Vikings 1st round pick (17) and both 3rd round picks (73,82) in the 2008 draft.

http://www.nfl.com/

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EDIT - Jay Glazer says we will also swap picks in the 6th round. Per KFFL:

Vikings | Team acquires J. Allen, agrees to terms on contract
Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:14:13 -0700

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the Minnesota Vikings have agreed to terms on a contract with Kansas City Chiefs DE Jared Allen. The Vikings will give the Chiefs their 2008 first-round draft pick, two third-round picks and the teams will swap sixth-round picks with the Vikings acquiring Allen. Allen has also agreed to terms on a six-year deal worth just under $74 million with $31,000,069 guaranteed. No. 69 is his jersey number.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-23-2008, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Carl really did a good job of pulling the wool over some people's eyes. I keep hearing JA didn't want to be here-everything I've heard says he WANTED to be here-this is all about Carl's ego being challenged so he ships JA out-nothing more.

Speaking of wool over the eyes.....

Jared Allen didn't want to be here LAST YEAR.

This is the SECOND time he's requested to be traded.

4 DWI's?

Nah, he's going to change.

2 requests to be traded?

Nah, he really wants to be here.

People are letting their hate for Peterson get in the way of common ****ing sense.

markk · 04-23-2008, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE

Super Bowl > Pro Bowl

now there is a good post

BigChiefFan · 04-23-2008, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Speaking of wool over the eyes.....

Jared Allen didn't want to be here LAST YEAR.

This is the SECOND time he's requested to be traded.

4 DWI's?

Nah, he's going to change.

2 requests to be traded?

Nah, he really wants to be here.

People are letting their hate for Peterson get in the way of common ****ing sense.

The request of the trade was to force carl to address him-Carl got egg on his face, so his ego won out. Look, I'm glad we got something in return, but I don't buy all the crap that he didn't want to be here. That's a MYTH.

Chiefnj2 · 04-23-2008, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Carl really did a good job of pulling the wool over some people's eyes. I keep hearing JA didn't want to be here-everything I've heard says he WANTED to be here-this is all about Carl's ego being challenged so he ships JA out-nothing more.

He didn't want to be in KC last year, but yet he attended all voluntary workouts, etc.

StcChief · 04-23-2008, 08:04 AM

time well tell if we can draft well enough and get another DE of his player caliber.

Chiefnj2 · 04-23-2008, 08:10 AM

The next few days and months will unfold as follows:

Wed - Fri : Acceptance of the trade. Lots of excitement with the extra picks in the draft.

Sat - Sun: Anger at the horrible draft choices.

Mon - August: Acceptance of the draft picks (except the 5th pick who is holding out - he's a greedy SOB) and rationalization of various reaches taken by Herm and Carl. "The more I read about Benjamin Winesapp the more I like him. His numbers were better than Gholston's against Akron. I think Herm found a diamond in the rough."

Sept - Dec: Anger. "Winesapp sucks ass. At least we'll have a top 10 pick this year. That'll turn things around."

**wazu** · 04-24-2008, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The next few days and months will unfold as follows:

Wed - Fri : Acceptance of the trade. Lots of excitement with the extra picks in the draft.

Sat - Sun: Anger at the horrible draft choices.

Mon - August: Acceptance of the draft picks (except the 5th pick who is holding out - he's a greedy SOB) and rationalization of various reaches taken by Herm and Carl. "The more I read about Benjamin Winesapp the more I like him. His numbers were better than Gholston's against Akron. I think Herm found a diamond in the rough."

Sept - Dec: Anger. "Winesapp sucks ass. At least we'll have a top 10 pick this year. That'll turn things around."

Perfect.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-24-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Okay, go with 20 out of 70. The odds of getting 2 starters with the third-round picks goes up to 8%, 1 starter to 41%, and 0 starters to 51%.

5 pro bowlers? The odds of getting 2 pro bowlers with the third round picks is 0.5% (1 in 200), the odds of getting 1 pro bowler is 13%, and the odds of getting 0 pro bowlers is 86%.

Now add in the 100% chance that we lost 1 pro bowler/starter already, and the well-less-than 100% chance that our 17th pick will turn into a multi-year starter, and I'll consider us very lucky to break even.

I hope we beat the odds. I really do. But I think some people enjoy the draft so much that they've convinced themselves that everyone in the top X rounds is NFL talent, and that's simply not the case. Unless this draft is some magical once-in-a-hundred-lifetimes exception, most of the third-round picks will run down a few punts and then go sell cars for a living.

Dude, almost half of those guys are starter quality.

I really want you to break this down mathematically:

Let's say that everyone drafted in the first two rounds is starter quality. That means each team gets 2 starters every year on average. Now, the average life for an NFL player is about 4 years, but we'll go with 6 just to help you out.

You've gotten 12 starters out of 22 in six years, and half of them are on the downside of their life expectancy.

Where the hell else do you think those other players will come from??

'Hamas' Jenkins · 04-24-2008, 06:03 PM

How many 1st rounders do the Colts have??

8. And they draft better than anyone.

Ryan Diem was a 4th Rounder, Ugoh a mid-2nd rounder, Lilja was a scrap heap player, Saturday was undrafted, Raheem Brock was a 7th rounder, Robert Mathis was a 5th rounder, Gary Brackett was undrafted, Freddie Keiaho was a 3rd rounder, Antoine Bethea was a 6th rounder, Bob Sanders was a 2nd rounder.

Why don't you look and see where the Chargers got Gates, Vincent Jackson, Shaun Phillips, Jamaal Williams, Olshansky, McNeil, and Nick Hardwick.

They are all impact players and none of them were 1st rounders.

ChiefaRoo · 04-24-2008, 06:05 PM

Who is this Jared Allen guy everyone is talking about?

MTG#10 · 04-24-2008, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo

Who is this Jared Allen guy everyone is talking about?

Some redneck that looks queer in purple.

ChiefaRoo · 04-24-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10

Some redneck that looks queer in purple.

Yee Haw!!! WINE 'EM, DINE 'EM.......

KChiefsQT · 04-24-2008, 07:43 PM

No more Jared Allen fantasies...

Another KC Jersey of mine gone down in flames....

No more rodeo round up...

Geez, probably no more Sacks either...

Boo....

**Skip Towne** · 04-24-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo

Who is this Jared Allen guy everyone is talking about?

He's the guy you called a big, dumb cowboy.

**J Diddy** · 04-24-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

The request of the trade was to force carl to address him-Carl got egg on his face, so his ego won out. Look, I'm glad we got something in return, but I don't buy all the crap that he didn't want to be here. That's a MYTH.

dude

he said, not his agent, I love the fans but I think it's time for me to move on

He said that during the season

04-22-2008, 08:41 PM
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4741115	Jared Allen is a Viking According to Adam Sheffter of NFLN. Just saw on the ticker. Chiefs receive the Vikings 1st round pick (17) and both 3rd round picks (73,82) in the 2008 draft. http://www.nfl.com/ ----- EDIT - Jay Glazer says we will also swap picks in the 6th round. Per KFFL: Vikings \| Team acquires J. Allen, agrees to terms on contract Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:14:13 -0700 Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the Minnesota Vikings have agreed to terms on a contract with Kansas City Chiefs DE Jared Allen. The Vikings will give the Chiefs their 2008 first-round draft pick, two third-round picks and the teams will swap sixth-round picks with the Vikings acquiring Allen. Allen has also agreed to terms on a six-year deal worth just under $74 million with $31,000,069 guaranteed. No. 69 is his jersey number. Last edited by DaFace; 04-22-2008 at 10:42 PM..
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