Chiefs 2013 QB Class - Page 29

O.city · 12-11-2012, 10:06 AM

This was posted in another thread by Milkman, but it got overlooked so I'm making a thread out of it.

I know, another QB thread. But this needs to be put out there for some of the "posters" here to see and think about.

The top three in this years class are in no particular order:

Geno Smith
Tyler Wilson
Matt Barkley

Thats not counting Bray, Glennon, Nassib, etc. Who are all talented in their own right.

So, many posters here want to say, "no not this year, this class is awful don't take one, there isn't a Luck or RGIII in the bunch", which isn't necessarily false.

No there isn't a once in a decade guy. Which is probably what Luck was. Hell even more there have been 2 guys of his stature come out in the last 20 or so years. Luck and Manning.

Yet there are franchise QB's all over the league. How is that so you may ask?

Lets take a look at the last 5 QB classes top 3 guys to come out and get drafted, taking out 2012's class.

2007
Jamarcus Russel
Brady Quinn
Kevin Kolb

2008
Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Brian Brohm

2009
Matt Stafford
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman

2010
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen

2011
Cam Newton
Blaine Gabbert
Jake Locker

Look at those classes and no, you have to evaluate them at the time they were picked, not what they are now, we don't know what this years class will be in the NFL.

I'd argue that this years class is more loaded than any of those classes at the top and from top to bottom.

So, you wanna argue that this isn't a year to take a QB? I'll argue that its a great year to take a QB.

Sorter · 12-12-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I saw pretty much every game of Pryor's at tOSU.

He came out too early (even though he didn't really have a choice after the scandal) and needs a ton of development in the passing game...

But he's a natural athlete with a lot of moxy.

I think he rapes the Chiefs. I mean, how many chances is he going to get? This is his chance to make sure he's not competing for a job with Geno Smith next year.

All the interviews I just read from him sound like A) He's hungry and B) He's really worked on developing as a pocket passer and acknowledged his struggles there.

Red Brooklyn · 12-12-2012, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

I seriously can't talk football with people like that. It's just too irritating. People that don't understand/can't comprehend the importance of a franchise QB and don't have some level of competence in understanding personnel I seriously can't talk football with. I just have to smile, nod, and say "Yeah, that sounds great".

I kid you not, I just posted that 56% statistic in a discussion we're having on FB. And one of these guys says, "56% isn't an amazing statistic. That's just over half."

All I could think to respond with was, "dynamite drop in, Monty."

whoman69 · 12-12-2012, 11:34 AM

Guess Chiefsplanet is smarter than that. 85% said QB or bust in a recent poll.

Sorter · 12-12-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

I kid you not, I just posted that 56% statistic in a discussion we're having on FB. And one of these guys says, "56% isn't an amazing statistic. That's just over half."

All I could think to respond with was, "dynamite drop in, Monty."

JFC, nuke it.

Nuke it, then napalm it, then nuke it again just to be sure from orbit.

kcbubb · 12-12-2012, 03:37 PM

Would you be pissed if the Chiefs took Bray in the 3rd and started him from day 1 similar to what Seattle did with Russell Wilson?

htismaqe · 12-12-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb

Would you be pissed if the Chiefs took Bray in the 3rd and started him from day 1 similar to what Seattle did with Russell Wilson?

Bray is pretty much the polar opposite of Russell Wilson.

**bevischief** · 12-12-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Trade down to draft Teo, use extra picks to wheel and deal for Flynn AND Alex Smith. Profit

!!!

Not with Peeholi in charge...

**bevischief** · 12-12-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Here's the thing about them playing Pryor - he's an instinctive runner. No, he's not Cam Newton but he's definitely not CARSON PALMER.

If they play to Pryor's strengths, we'll have trouble stopping them.

Hope so.

kcbubb · 12-12-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Bray is pretty much the polar opposite of Russell Wilson.

Yes of course. Except for the arm strength.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-12-2012, 04:06 PM

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O.city · 12-12-2012, 04:25 PM

Another thing I ask mcshay and the scouts, they ha Barkley as likely a top 5 or 10 pick last year, what did he show in a year that degrades the previous THREE years of tape you have?

durtyrute · 12-12-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Another thing I ask mcshay and the scouts, they ha Barkley as likely a top 5 or 10 pick last year, what did he show in a year that degrades the previous THREE years of tape you have?

I don't understand why the scouts say, "Wait till the combine or the Senor Bowl to see what QB is the best." Most of them have been playing for atleast three years. Where they not watching then?

Chief Roundup · 12-12-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Another thing I ask mcshay and the scouts, they ha Barkley as likely a top 5 or 10 pick last year, what did he show in a year that degrades the previous THREE years of tape you have?

I would imagine the fact that he doubled his INTs and sacks from last season along with 4 losses. USC is suppose to be so talented yet he had a bad season in a weak conference.

**RealSNR** · 12-12-2012, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcbubb

Would you be pissed if the Chiefs took Bray in the 3rd and started him from day 1 similar to what Seattle did with Russell Wilson?

Already been said, but Russell Wilson got the start in Seattle because he's a ****ing football genius. His ability to learn new systems on the fly is unparalleled and unlike anything I've seen from a 3rd round pick.

Tyler Bray, however, is a ****ing reerun.

**Tribal Warfare** · 12-12-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Already been said, but Russell Wilson got the start in Seattle because he's a ****ing football genius. His ability to learn new systems on the fly is unparalleled and unlike anything I've seen from a 3rd round pick.

Tyler Bray, however, is a ****ing reerun.

Bray's an asshole, but he isn't mongoloid.

12-11-2012, 10:06 AM
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2484064	2013 QB Class This was posted in another thread by Milkman, but it got overlooked so I'm making a thread out of it. I know, another QB thread. But this needs to be put out there for some of the "posters" here to see and think about. The top three in this years class are in no particular order: Geno Smith Tyler Wilson Matt Barkley Thats not counting Bray, Glennon, Nassib, etc. Who are all talented in their own right. So, many posters here want to say, "no not this year, this class is awful don't take one, there isn't a Luck or RGIII in the bunch", which isn't necessarily false. No there isn't a once in a decade guy. Which is probably what Luck was. Hell even more there have been 2 guys of his stature come out in the last 20 or so years. Luck and Manning. Yet there are franchise QB's all over the league. How is that so you may ask? Lets take a look at the last 5 QB classes top 3 guys to come out and get drafted, taking out 2012's class. 2007 Jamarcus Russel Brady Quinn Kevin Kolb 2008 Matt Ryan Joe Flacco Brian Brohm 2009 Matt Stafford Mark Sanchez Josh Freeman 2010 Sam Bradford Tim Tebow Jimmy Clausen 2011 Cam Newton Blaine Gabbert Jake Locker Look at those classes and no, you have to evaluate them at the time they were picked, not what they are now, we don't know what this years class will be in the NFL. I'd argue that this years class is more loaded than any of those classes at the top and from top to bottom. So, you wanna argue that this isn't a year to take a QB? I'll argue that its a great year to take a QB.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2484064	Another thing I ask mcshay and the scouts, they ha Barkley as likely a top 5 or 10 pick last year, what did he show in a year that degrades the previous THREE years of tape you have?
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