Royals ****Official Royals @ Rays Game Thread 6/13**** - Page 29

**RockChalk** · 02:09 PM

Started my first game thread of the season in yesterday's win, so lets make it 2 days in a row.

Santana (4-5, 2.99 ERA) vs Hellickson (4-2, 5.18 ERA)

Kansas City
Gordon
Hosmer
Grown Ass Man
Butler
Cain
Lough
Tejada
Johnson
Escobar

Tampa Bay
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Hootie · 06-13-2013, 10:27 PM

but please don't start in on this 'Alex shouldn't play 3rd because one time a long time ago he couldn't hit when he played 3rd' or 'he's a gold glove left fielder' because the stats are going to back me up on this...

A gold glove LF'er means nothing...and this year, thus far, he has played slightly above replacement level at left.

I mean...LF and 1B are so far and away the most meaningless defensive positions it's not even close.

Hootie · 06-13-2013, 10:27 PM

if anything...Hosmer is starting to look like our 2nd best leadoff hitter

O.city · 06-13-2013, 10:31 PM

I wouldn't say a gold glove LF'er means nothing, but in comparison to other positions, it's definitely less important.

MeatRock · 06-13-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by unnecessary drama

Alex is a good ****ing hitter. The Royals are going to benefit from him no matter where he hits. Personally, I think he's a 3 hitter on this team.

Salvy is hitting about .340 from the 3 hole. So if that is how it is, that is how it is, and keep Gordon at #1.

It doesn't really matter when no one on their team can hit a homerun. If that's the case, then yeah, Alex should probably be at leadoff.

I like Salvy in the 3 hole. The thing is, is that Gordo can hit in both the 1 and 3 holes with occasional power. No one else can do that and be meaningful on the base path's like Gordon can. Maybe Hosmer, if he continues to develop but he's just not as consistent as Gordon right now, outside of this little slump.

Hootie · 06-13-2013, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

I wouldn't say a gold glove LF'er means nothing, but in comparison to other positions, it's definitely less important.

it's just really not all that important

I don't know how else to break it

even Shelly Duncan will catch the balls hit to him out there

O.city · 06-13-2013, 10:33 PM

However, making these moves so you can get Dyson in the lineup more, seems to be an exercise in futility.

And I'm not sure Gordon could play replacement level 3rd base right now.

MeatRock · 06-13-2013, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unnecessary drama

but please don't start in on this 'Alex shouldn't play 3rd because one time a long time ago he couldn't hit when he played 3rd' or 'he's a gold glove left fielder' because the stats are going to back me up on this...

A gold glove LF'er means nothing...and this year, thus far, he has played slightly above replacement level at left.

I mean...LF and 1B are so far and away the most meaningless defensive positions it's not even close.

The problem is that you are moving Gordo to make room for a .250 slap hitter.

Hootie · 06-13-2013, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock

The problem is that you are moving Gordo to make room for a .250 slap hitter.

maybe but I'd rather have that then Moose

Hootie · 06-13-2013, 10:34 PM

3B is a total reaction position

you don't forget how to play 3B

and it's 100% instinctual in the MLB

Chiefspants · 06-13-2013, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unnecessary drama

maybe but I'd rather have that then Moose

Spoiler!

O.city · 06-13-2013, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unnecessary drama

it's just really not all that important

I don't know how else to break it

even Shelly Duncan will catch the balls hit to him out there

Yes, but when talking about a GGer, he's not just catching balls hit at him, he's probably legitimately saving runs from LF, thru assists and/or holding doubles to singles, etc.

So essentially, an average LF'er, or Matt Holliday, won't necessarily kill you, but he can absolutely hurt you if you don't set the rest of your lineup/pitching staff to hide him.

Chiefspants · 06-13-2013, 10:36 PM

Saw this golden nugget on the forum to the Royals main website.

Quote:

figurant
Davis, Francoeur and Getz for Chase Utley?

1969kcroyals
Like your post but keep Davis and make it Hochevar instead!

commenter 28 minutes agoin reply to figurant
Seems fair!

MeatRock · 06-13-2013, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unnecessary drama

maybe but I'd rather have that then Moose

Tejada is hitting .333 right now with good pop. Dyson takes bad angles on hard hit balls and has a shit arm.
Dyson's speed is all he has at this point and is better suited in a bench role.

Deberg_1990 · 06-13-2013, 10:38 PM

I wonder how long Moose gets in the Royals organization, even if he never plays up to his draft position? You know Dayton won't ever be able to give up on his first born.

Chiefspants · 06-13-2013, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatRock

Tejada is hitting .333 right now with good pop. Dyson takes bad angles on hard hit balls and has a shit arm.
Dyson's speed is all he has at this point and is better suited in a bench role.

Now there's an idea!

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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	but please don't start in on this 'Alex shouldn't play 3rd because one time a long time ago he couldn't hit when he played 3rd' or 'he's a gold glove left fielder' because the stats are going to back me up on this... A gold glove LF'er means nothing...and this year, thus far, he has played slightly above replacement level at left. I mean...LF and 1B are so far and away the most meaningless defensive positions it's not even close.
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	if anything...Hosmer is starting to look like our 2nd best leadoff hitter
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2404064	I wouldn't say a gold glove LF'er means nothing, but in comparison to other positions, it's definitely less important.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2404064	However, making these moves so you can get Dyson in the lineup more, seems to be an exercise in futility. And I'm not sure Gordon could play replacement level 3rd base right now.
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	3B is a total reaction position you don't forget how to play 3B and it's 100% instinctual in the MLB
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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3604454	I wonder how long Moose gets in the Royals organization, even if he never plays up to his draft position? You know Dayton won't ever be able to give up on his first born. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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