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Old 11-17-2017, 08:24 PM  
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*** Official 2018 Royals Offseason Repository ***
It's the end of the world as we know it... and we feel... fine?

2018 is a season of transition for the Royals, or at least it is at this point. Dayton Moore is back. Will he swing full into THE PROCESS 2.0? Or will he try to load up again and make some reload magic happen?

Pending Free Agents:
1B | Eric Hosmer | San Diego Padres, 8 years, $144 million ($5 million signing bonus; $20 million/year in Yrs 1-5; $13 million/year in Yrs 6-8 wth player opt out)
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3B | Mike Moustaskas | Kansas City Royas, 1, $6.5 million
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CF | Lorenzo Cain | Milwaukee Brewers, 5 years, $80 million
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RP | Mike Minor | Texas Rangers, 3, $28 million
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SP | Jason Vargas | New York Mets, 2, $16 million
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SS | Alcides Escobar | Kansas City Royals, 1, $2.5 million
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2018 MLB Draft Picks
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#33 - Compensation (Eric Hosmer)
#34 - Compensation (Lorenzo Cain)
#40 (Competitive Balance Round A)

Comp picks explanation:
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2018 Draft Names to Watch

RHP Kumar Rocker, N Oconnee HS, Georgia.
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OF Jarred Kelenic, Waukasha West HS, WI
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1B Triston Casas, American Heritage HS (FL).
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RHP Carter Stewart, Eau de Gallie HS (Ga).
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ANY Any, Any (Any). Any current top projected pick who slides for injury concerns. Includes current top prospect prospect SP Brady Singer, U of Florida.
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Old 12-21-2017, 07:47 PM   #421
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This is really fascinating about the limited buzz on all these Royals.
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Old 12-21-2017, 07:57 PM   #422
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I'm guessing Boras didn't expect it to go this poorly, but some of this is just the nature of baseball today. It's why I wasn't super high on trading anyone at the deadline. The market for position players just isn't what it used to be. All of these big market teams are being more careful with their money, and most all of them have put their focus on developing their own position players. They aren't trading their top prospects away, and they aren't trying to simply "buy" a team anymore.

The Yankees, Cubs, Dodgers, have all developed their own offensive prospects. Judge, Sanchez, Bryant, Rizzo, pretty much the whole Dodgers lineup. Same thing with the Astros even, develop your big talent (Correa, Springer, Altuve) and supplement them with smart free agent moves.

But you can't produce a 38 hr bat at 3B, outside of Bryant. All 3 of our guys have great value and will get big dollars. Cain's only limit is his health
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Old 12-21-2017, 08:37 PM   #423
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But you can't produce a 38 hr bat at 3B, outside of Bryant. All 3 of our guys have great value and will get big dollars. Cain's only limit is his health
Age more than health with Cain.
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Old 12-21-2017, 08:39 PM   #424
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This is really fascinating about the limited buzz on all these Royals.
Not really. Always figured Hosmer would be back. Moose had two likely spots who went with a trade and shortstop moved to third. Cain is an older risk so his market was always going to be slower. Now if Cain was Hosmer age. Damn his market would be off the charts.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:24 PM   #425
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The Yankees, Cubs, Dodgers, have all developed their own offensive prospects. Judge, Sanchez, Bryant, Rizzo, pretty much the whole Dodgers lineup. Same thing with the Astros even, develop your big talent (Correa, Springer, Altuve) and supplement them with smart free agent moves.
Rizzo was traded for, just sayin. Thank you Andrew Cashner.
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Old 12-21-2017, 09:36 PM   #426
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Rizzo was traded for, just sayin. Thank you Andrew Cashner.
Yeah I know, but it's still the same thing... it's not like he was already a star with the Padres. They found young talent and developed him. They didn't go out and pay nine figures for a 1B. Obviously most of those players were drafted, but the overall theme is acquiring young, controllable talent.
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Old 12-28-2017, 09:19 AM   #427
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Let's talk about what a full Royal's rebuild looks like -

I think the Royals can ink Moose long-term. All this talk about a pillow deal doesn't make sense with the number of high profile FAs next year, especially at 3B.

Duffy and Merrifield to the Yankees for Torres and Frazier?

Herrera to the Dodgers for (who really knows what the reliever market looks like right now?)

Maybe you can get something for Hammel/Soria?

If you deal Duffy, does it buy you enough space to sign both Moose and Hos? Seems likely. Then you have a nice veteran base of Salvy, Hos, Moose for the next five years.
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Old 12-28-2017, 11:21 AM   #429
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Figures that FA has face planted and Moose and Cain likely won't get that 50 plus mill deal and the Royals get nothing right?
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6 and 120 to San Diego seems like a far cry from the 200 million some were predicting to Boston.

This offseason has to be a disappointment to Hosmer.
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Figures that FA has face planted and Moose and Cain likely won't get that 50 plus mill deal and the Royals get nothing right?
I'm pretty sure Cain still will, not sure on Moose.
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Figures that FA has face planted and Moose and Cain likely won't get that 50 plus mill deal and the Royals get nothing right?
They'll still get a pick, but after the second round instead of after the first round.
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Figures that FA has face planted and Moose and Cain likely won't get that 50 plus mill deal and the Royals get nothing right?

The Royals wouldn't get nothing. They would get comp picks after competitive balance round b in a situation where those guys sign for less than $50 million.

I think both will end up north of that mark, anyway, but the Royals don't end up screwed if they don't.
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6/120 to live in SD? Gosh, that's a bitter pill to swallow. I feel badly for him. He needs to take the $ and run if true. The fact he hasn't, makes me believe it isn't true - because he'd be a fool to turn that down.


Why is 120M a disappointment? He was never getting 200M from anyone. Really hard to fool GMs and analytics dept now.
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6/120 to live in SD? Gosh, that's a bitter pill to swallow. I feel badly for him. He needs to take the $ and run if true. The fact he hasn't, makes me believe it isn't true - because he'd be a fool to turn that down.


Why is 120M a disappointment? He was never getting 200M from anyone. Really hard to fool GMs and analytics dept now.
Boras has a trump card that many don't, though - his relationship with owners.

He's been doing these big money deals for a long time and for all the 9 figure guys, he insists on negotiating directly with the owners and by and large those owners have acquiesced. So while he's unlikely to fool a GM or their staff, he may be able to buffalo a 70 year old billionaire who treats player acquisitions like a dick measuring contest.

That's why every year he seems to pull a rabbit out of his hat and people are left shaking their heads. He doesn't need to convince the industry that his valuation on a player is right - just one of 30 old rich guys, many of whom made their money in something that wasn't baseball. And by and large, he manages to pull it off.
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