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Old 04-03-2016, 09:48 AM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Repository, Version 1 ***



And so it begins: The Royals' second straight attempt to repeat as AL Champions, and first attempt to repeat as World Series champions.

In this thread, we'll track all non-gameday action. Roster moves, prospect news, etc.

I'll start the thread as usual, with division rivals thoughts. I still like KC to repeat as AL Central champs. Here's how I see the rest of it shaking out:

2) Indians - they have the pitching (and seem to have at least semi-Kluber-ed Cody Anderson, who added 3 mph to his fastball in the offseason). Will the offense hold up? I think this is a team that ends up looking a lot like the 2014 Royals. Francisco Lindor will solidify their IF defense over the full season, and is a help with the bat. I think this club is still a year away from really breaking through - the offense still has a lot of question marks - but I like them to nab a wildcard spot.

Key Player(s): Michael Brantley. When Brantley returns - and how he hits when he does - will be critical to the Indians' ability to be good enough on offense.

Jason Kipnis. Kipnis has been an enigmatic offensive performer for the past several years. If he finally has a good offensive campaign from start to finish, Cleveland could make real noise.

Something of interest to me: For all the acclaim the Twins' farm system gets, I look at the Indians young players, and would much rather have them. Brad Zimmer is going to be a very good all-around CF. Clint Frazier has huge power potential and should arrive soon (2017). Lindor is a young stud.

3) Tigers - Old and dependent on a few stars. If Verlander and Sanchez are healthy and effective, they will be playoff contenders. I'm sure JD Martinez will continue to hit roid-aided bombs. I'm also pretty sure Victor Martinez's days as a huge power threat are gone.

Key player: Justin Verlander. Detroit people would have you believe he figured out how to succeed without his big fastball in September of last year. If that's true, and he returns to dominant form, Detroit will likely contend again.

Something of interest to me: Will Jose Iglesias stay healthy and not try to kill teammates in the dugout? His defense makes the whole group much better.

4) Twins - They won't lead the division or be in playoff contention for as long this year, but Minnesota will avoid the cellar.

Key Player: Miguel Sano. Huge power, huge K rate. Can he continue to drive the ball and be a plus offensive player? Probably needs to cut that 35 percent K percentage to do so.

Something of interest to me: Will teams challenge Sano inside with hard stuff? Working away, away, just lets his power play up. Also - will Mike Berardino continue to be the biggest beat writer homer in MLB?

5) White Sox - still managed by a shitty manager who can't control his clubhouse (The blame for the LaRoche thing really should fall on him, not the GM). Still have a shitty overall defense and a lot of douchebags on the team. They will once again look better on paper than they actually perform.

Key player: Carlos Rodon. The White Sox need Rodon to take a big step forward to make an actual move this season. He's got the talent...

And, as always, here are the prospects.

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Old 08-15-2016, 10:23 PM   #4381
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We need to worry about getting to .500 first. I think we'd need some help at this point. But I agree we've learned to never give up on this team. I'd just like to see them keep chipping away and get over .500 at this point. I think we can do that though... especially if Gordon and Cain can hit and Duffy/Kennedy/Ventura pitch like they have.

The most optimistic argument you can make is our schedule is not too bad. We play the Twins and White Sox a lot this last month and a half.
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Old 08-15-2016, 10:34 PM   #4382
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Finish strong Royals. They are doing this with Hosmer and Sal having a mid .500 ops too this 2nd half..those two need to hit
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Old 08-15-2016, 10:53 PM   #4383
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I was about 8 years old and was sitting with my Dad in the right field bleachers that day. I still remember that play. They carried Amos off on a stretcher.
I was there, too. That was 1972, I believe, when I was 6 years old. If I recall correctly, after Otis smashed into the wall, Richie Schleinblum ran to retrieve the ball and throw it back into the outfield. I was also in the right field bleachers that game, so the collision with the wall wasn't that far away.
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Old 08-15-2016, 11:01 PM   #4384
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I was there, too. That was 1972, I believe, when I was 6 years old. If I recall correctly, after Otis smashed into the wall, Richie Schleinblum ran to retrieve the ball and throw it back into the outfield. I was also in the right field bleachers that game, so the collision with the wall wasn't that far away.
I think this was the box score.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...97207230.shtml

This box score has Steve Hovley replacing Otis early in the game and Grich getting a triple. I do remember Grich got a triple out of the play where Otis got hurt. The box score also has Schleinblum in right field.

I don't remember Steve Hovley's time with the Royals. He was one of the characters in Ball Four, the amusing baseball memoir by Jim Bouton.

The box score shows Cookie Rojas playing 3B. I always think of him as our 2B, but he played a few games at other positions. Turns out he played about 30 games at 3B in 1977, according to his profile at Baseball Prospectus. I have to admit, I don't remember that, at all. Brett must have been hurt that year. I just remember that we were really, really good in 1977. Looking back, though, I think our 2015 team was the best Royals team of all time.

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Old 08-16-2016, 01:24 AM   #4385
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Royals big problem this year has been against the AL West. .333 winning percentage against the AL West. If we would have played .500 ball against them, we would have been on right in the AL Wildcard race.

Royals will be right around 85 wins IMO win the season ends.
I have a $1k O/U bet at Royals 86.5 wins. If they fall one or two short it's going to kill me.
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Old 08-16-2016, 01:42 AM   #4386
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I have a $1k O/U bet at Royals 86.5 wins. If they fall one or two short it's going to kill me.
Well you'll have Soria to thank for that one
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I think this was the box score.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...97207230.shtml

This box score has Steve Hovley replacing Otis early in the game and Grich getting a triple. I do remember Grich got a triple out of the play where Otis got hurt. The box score also has Schleinblum in right field.

I don't remember Steve Hovley's time with the Royals. He was one of the characters in Ball Four, the amusing baseball memoir by Jim Bouton.

The box score shows Cookie Rojas playing 3B. I always think of him as our 2B, but he played a few games at other positions. Turns out he played about 30 games at 3B in 1977, according to his profile at Baseball Prospectus. I have to admit, I don't remember that, at all. Brett must have been hurt that year. I just remember that we were really, really good in 1977. Looking back, though, I think our 2015 team was the best Royals team of all time.
According to Fangraphs, 1977 was in fact our best team by WAR.

1. 1977
2. 1980
3. 1978
4. 1975
5. 1976



Can anyone tell the glory years of Royals baseball? Although 2013-2014-2015 are 7,9,10. Personally I think 2015 is our best team ever esp with Zo and Cueto.
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Oh by the way, 2016 currently ranks 44/48 in our history. With 1/4 of the season left to play they are projected to be our 30th best team. Not what we expected but then, neither were the last 3 years
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Old 08-16-2016, 08:45 AM   #4393
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This year, the Royals have had 89 combined starts from their top four guys: Volquez, Ventura, Ian Kennedy, and Duffy. Despite some inconsistent years from three of those pitchers, the Royals have gone 50-39 in those games (14-3 in Duffy starts, if you were wondering). Even though the combination of Ventura/Kennedy/Volquez has been decidedly average, they’ve shown that as long as there is a Duffy-type leader of the rotation, they can be a serviceable group.

The other 29 starts this year have come from Young, Medlen, Dillon Gee, and Flynn. The Royals are 8-21 in those games. There’s your season. Just six or seven more wins, just going about .500 in those games, and the Royals would be in the thick of the playoff race, even with their other issues. That record isn’t a fluke, by the way. Those four have a whopping 7.17 ERA in 128 innings as starters.
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The biggest ****-up on Dayton's part was entering the season with Medlen and Young in the same rotation. That was a fatal error. Young should have been sent packing, and we should have been on the hunt for another SP.

I get Dayton falling in love with CY, especially what he was able to provide last season and in the Playoffs. But seriously, that was just crazy good fortune as to what we were able to get out of CY in 2015.
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That plus Soria going 1 for 6 in save opportunities this year which doesn't include times where he came in with the game tied has been the end of our playoff run.
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