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Old 02-14-2013, 11:51 AM   #1
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Kiper is another who continues to prove what a buffoon he is. Thinks we should trade out of the #1 spot.



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The Chiefs have started the process of setting their draft board, and the job will be finished by the time they arrive in Indianapolis for the scouting combine next week. The board obviously will be subject to some shuffling over the next couple of months leading up to the draft in April.

But no matter what happens, the Chiefs may be in no-man’s land with the first overall pick. The options with that choice don’t look particularly appetizing, and the chances of them getting a great player might be as good if they dropped back a few spots as they would be if the made that top selection.

That’s why ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper continues to advocate a trade down for the Chiefs.

“I think trading out is still the best option,’’ Kiper said today. “There’s no quarterback to remotely consider if you’re Kansas City. I would say if (the Chiefs) can get out of there, that’s the best option if they can, and there’s no guarantee they will be able to.’’
Kiper whittled his list to three of players he considers worthy of consideration by the Chiefs with that first pick: Texas A&M offensive tackle Luke Joeckel, Georgia linebacker Jarvis Jones and Utah defensive lineman Star Lotulelei.

The Chiefs have Branden Albert at left tackle, though he could be an unrestricted free agent if he doesn’t re-sign by March. They have Pro Bowlers at outside linebacker in Justin Houston and Tamba Hali. They also have invested heavily in the defensive line with the first round picks in recent drafts.

The best cornerback available in the draft is Alabama’s Dee Milliner. The Chiefs could use help at cornerback after cutting starter Stanford Routt midway through last season, and Kiper has Milliner rated as his fifth best draft-eligible player at any position.

But he doesn’t believe Milliner is worth the top pick.
“I don’t think it’s ridiculous because he’s certainly a good football player,’’ Kiper said. “He’s not Patrick Peterson. He’s not Deion Sanders. He’s not that type of player coming in. This guy wasn’t a starter until (last) year at Alabama, a full-time starter. Do I think he’s an elite player? No. The number one pick overall? No.’’
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:54 PM   #2
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Kiper is another who continues to prove what a buffoon he is. Thinks we should trade out of the #1 spot.



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The Chiefs have started the process of setting their draft board, and the job will be finished by the time they arrive in Indianapolis for the scouting combine next week. The board obviously will be subject to some shuffling over the next couple of months leading up to the draft in April.

But no matter what happens, the Chiefs may be in no-man’s land with the first overall pick. The options with that choice don’t look particularly appetizing, and the chances of them getting a great player might be as good if they dropped back a few spots as they would be if the made that top selection.

That’s why ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper continues to advocate a trade down for the Chiefs.

“I think trading out is still the best option,’’ Kiper said today. “There’s no quarterback to remotely consider if you’re Kansas City. I would say if (the Chiefs) can get out of there, that’s the best option if they can, and there’s no guarantee they will be able to.’’
Kiper whittled his list to three of players he considers worthy of consideration by the Chiefs with that first pick: Texas A&M offensive tackle Luke Joeckel, Georgia linebacker Jarvis Jones and Utah defensive lineman Star Lotulelei.

The Chiefs have Branden Albert at left tackle, though he could be an unrestricted free agent if he doesn’t re-sign by March. They have Pro Bowlers at outside linebacker in Justin Houston and Tamba Hali. They also have invested heavily in the defensive line with the first round picks in recent drafts.

The best cornerback available in the draft is Alabama’s Dee Milliner. The Chiefs could use help at cornerback after cutting starter Stanford Routt midway through last season, and Kiper has Milliner rated as his fifth best draft-eligible player at any position.

But he doesn’t believe Milliner is worth the top pick.
“I don’t think it’s ridiculous because he’s certainly a good football player,’’ Kiper said. “He’s not Patrick Peterson. He’s not Deion Sanders. He’s not that type of player coming in. This guy wasn’t a starter until (last) year at Alabama, a full-time starter. Do I think he’s an elite player? No. The number one pick overall? No.’’
THIS
who the **** would trade up?
take a qb with the new pay system not that big of a hit

and I never liked deon sanders
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:54 AM   #3
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**** all these ignorant asshole writers.

**** ALL OF THEM.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:11 PM   #4
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:07 PM   #5
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I wonder if the Ravens will just let Flacco walk and draft another QB. Plug and play league
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:08 PM   #6
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I wonder if the Ravens will just let Flacco walk and draft another QB. Plug and play league
Flacco is gonna want $100M. You can get a guy in the draft for less than 10% of that!
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:22 PM   #7
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I often wonder if teams drafting lower in the first round don't bad-mouth a player's ability hoping he'll drop to them. They feed this BS to journalists who keep repeating the mantra and it becomes the norm. I just hope our new FO is not listening to this BS about Geno and evaluate him in a vacuum.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:28 PM   #8
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I often wonder if teams drafting lower in the first round don't bad-mouth a player's ability hoping he'll drop to them. They feed this BS to journalists who keep repeating the mantra and it becomes the norm. I just hope our new FO is not listening to this BS about Geno and evaluate him in a vacuum.
They definitely do.

Pioli repeatedly stated that combine didn't mean shit last year, for example.
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If you draft Joeckel #1....what QB are you taking?

And don't say Wilson, Glennon or Barkley because they're all going to go in the 1st round.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:41 PM   #10
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If you draft Joeckel #1....what QB are you taking?

And don't say Wilson, Glennon or Barkley because they're all going to go in the 1st round.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:45 PM   #11
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If you draft Joeckel #1....what QB are you taking?

And don't say Wilson, Glennon or Barkley because they're all going to go in the 1st round.
My original post said Glennon. I think he's the Flacco of this bunch. Not sure what to think anymore about 1st round QB's these days. 2011 proved everyone jumped too high. Some teams may not want to get stuck with a Gabbert or Ponder.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:48 PM   #12
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My original post said Glennon. I think he's the Flacco of this bunch.
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2011 proved that teams guessed wrong, which has happened since the draft began. Teams will continue to draft Gabbert and Ponder in hopes that they're getting Kaepernick or Wilson.

The QB position is just too important in this day and age.
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My original post said Glennon. I think he's the Flacco of this bunch. Not sure what to think anymore about 1st round QB's these days. 2011 proved everyone jumped too high. Some teams may not want to get stuck with a Gabbert or Ponder.
I already told you.....Glennon is gone. Wilson and Barkley will be gone as well. So what slap dick QB are you drafting in the 2nd round?
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I already told you.....Glennon is gone. Wilson and Barkley will be gone as well. So what slap dick QB are you drafting in the 2nd round?
Geno, Kiper already said he isn't 1st round talent.
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Drafting Joeckel would be a LOT more reasonable/acceptable if:

1) Albert was looking for huge money and the Chiefs were in cap trouble.
2) Albert was not publicly expressing his interest in returning to KC. The guy clearly wants to be here.
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