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Old 01-11-2012, 07:00 PM  
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Cassel post Haley\Muir...if he could improve on one thing..
ok so it sounds like Cassel is going to be the man next season. Yes, we all know CP says he sucks at life and isn't the answer. having said that he is going to be our QB it seems whether we like it or not.

I am not sold that our offense had to be so conservative because of Cassel. I think Haley had a lot to do with that. In hindsight I think we are going to see a lot of Haley's fail in comparison to a new coaching staff. Yes, Haley did some good things, I don't want to take that away from him. But I think the fact that he couldn't keep an OC on staff puts his thumbprint on this ridiculous offensive scheme we have seen for 3 years. Plus our O-line has been shit for 3 years as well. Pioli sounds like he finally realizes that fact so I expect to see more talent on that side of the ball next season.

That being said, if you could pick one area for Cassel to improve, (Lord knows there are plenty) what would it be?

Personally I think if he improved on his progressions he would eliminate a lot of the suck.
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:37 PM   #31
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ok so it sounds like Cassel is going to be the man next season. Yes, we all know CP says he sucks at life and isn't the answer. having said that he is going to be our QB it seems whether we like it or not.

I am not sold that our offense had to be so conservative because of Cassel. I think Haley had a lot to do with that. In hindsight I think we are going to see a lot of Haley's fail in comparison to a new coaching staff. Yes, Haley did some good things, I don't want to take that away from him. But I think the fact that he couldn't keep an OC on staff puts his thumbprint on this ridiculous offensive scheme we have seen for 3 years. Plus our O-line has been shit for 3 years as well. Pioli sounds like he finally realizes that fact so I expect to see more talent on that side of the ball next season.

That being said, if you could pick one area for Cassel to improve, (Lord knows there are plenty) what would it be?

Personally I think if he improved on his progressions he would eliminate a lot of the suck.
Where is everyone getting the idea that Cassel wil be QB? Just because it's happened before?
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:38 PM   #32
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Adequate? Hardly. Our O-line suckes ass. We couldn't pick up short yardage to save our lives.
run protection has nothing to do with pass protection. Nothing. 1 sack in the last 3 games. Same line. Different QB.
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:38 PM   #33
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Adequate? Hardly. Our O-line suckes ass. We couldn't pick up short yardage to save our lives.
We are talking about pass protection and Matt Cassel.

Everyone knows this team is not built for power.
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:39 PM   #34
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We are talking about pass protection and Matt Cassel.

Everyone knows this team is not built for power.
you're not mad at me about that thread the other night, are you pops?
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How do you explain the fact that when Orton came in the last three games, the offensive line gave up what 1 sack?

Against Clay Matthews, The Raiders dline, and Dumerville and Miller.
I know the numbers Orton has put up compare to Cassel, but Orton just operates more effectively in and out of the pocket - he makes plays where Cassel folds. Orton has some upside, Cassel has none.
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you're not mad at me about that thread the other night, are you pops?
Only that you were late in it's creation, so I missed the damn party.

Damn kid.....
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Adequate? Hardly. Our O-line suckes ass. We couldn't pick up short yardage to save our lives.
We couldn't pick up short yardage, because our oline is a zone blocking oline. Light, quick oline.

I'm not saying we have an all world oline, but take the true fan glasses off pete. Replace the C and RT and it would be solid. That's with Lilja at LG, who should probably be upgraded.
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run protection has nothing to do with pass protection. Nothing. 1 sack in the last 3 games. Same line. Different QB.
I can't argue with that...
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We know what Cassel is.

I'm a little interested in seeing what Orton could do with the weapons we could have on the field next year. In CHicago and Denver, he never had what he could have here next year.

Do I think he could win a SB? No
Playoff game? Sure

That said, he needs to be a stop gap.
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Let me say this, congrats Pete on starting a thread I actually felt like responding to thatzs Chiefs related. It's been awhile.
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With just a right tackle upgrade and anybody but Cassel playing quarterback, we have one of the top 10 lines in the league.
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With just a right tackle upgrade and anybody but Cassel playing quarterback, we have one of the top 10 lines in the league.
No way....not even ****ing close.
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