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Old 05-03-2011, 11:06 AM  
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Yahoo.com Draft Grades

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Denver Broncos
Picks: LB Von Miller, S Rahim Moore, OT Orlando Franklin, LB Nate Irving, S Quinton Carter, TE Julius Thomas, LB Mike Mohamed, TE Virgil Green, DL Jeremy Beal.
Grade: B
Analysis: A good rule of thumb in the NFL (and pretty much in just about any sport) is take the bigger guy first. The Broncos went against that theory by selecting Miller over Dareus. That said, Miller is the kind of disruptive, pass-rushing force who could be a perennial Pro Bowler. He is explosive and has a great personality, ingredients for becoming a great player and leader. The rest of the draft was very wise. In particular, getting Moore to rejuvenate an ancient secondary was critical (plus backing up that pick with Carter in the fourth round). Throw in the selections of Franklin and Irving and you have a draft that could easily feature four or five starters. That’s exactly what the Broncos had to get in this draft.

Kansas City Chiefs
Picks: WR Jonathan Baldwin, C Rodney Hudson, LB Justin Houston(notes), DE Allen Bailey(notes), CB Jalil Brown, QB Ricky Stanzi, LB Gabe Miller, DT Jerrell Powe, FB Shane Bannon.
Grade: B-
Analysis: The Chiefs moved back six spots in the first round and still got an offensive weapon who may start right away in Baldwin. The 6-foot-5 Baldwin is a beast and gives the team a great complement to Dwayne Bowe. However, like Bowe, Baldwin can be a bit of a head case. For instance, he had the gall to complain that the Pitt coaching staff was not throwing to him very much because they wanted to hurt his draft stock. Second-rounder Hudson should start this year or next depending on what happens with Casey Wiegmann. Third-round picks OLB Justin Houston and DE Allen Bailey could easily become starters as rookies. Neither figures to ever be great, but both should be solid starters.

Oakland Raiders
Picks: C Stefen Wisniewski, CB Demarcus Van Dyke , OL Joseph Barksdale, CB Chimdi Chekwa, RB Taiwan Jones, WR Denarius Moore, TE Richard Gordon, WR David Ausberry .
Grade: B+
Analysis: The Raiders get credit for getting DL Richard Seymour two seasons ago with the first-round pick they gave up from this year. Seymour has turned out to be a fine acquisition, even if he’s getting long in the tooth. Starting there, this draft simply reeks of Raiderdom, starting with the selection of Wisniewski in the second round. The latest Wiz will not only play for his uncle, former Raider great Steve Wisniewski, but will probably start from Day 1 because starter Samson Satele just wasn’t that good the past two years. From there, the Raiders basically drafted a 4 x 100 relay team with Van Dyke, Chekwa, Jones and Moore. The Raiders are nothing if not consistent.

San Diego Chargers
Picks: DT Corey Liuget, CB Marcus Gilchrist, LB Jonas Mouton, WR Vincent Brown, CB Shareece Wright, RB Jordan Todman, OL Steven Schilling, LB Andrew Gachkar.
Grade: B
Analysis: As you can tell, this draft screams defense as four of the top five picks (all in the first three rounds) were on that side of the ball. That started with Liuget at No. 18 overall. Liuget may not be the most dynamic lineman out there, but he’s solid across the board and could play any spot in San Diego’s three-man front. From there, the selection of Gilchrist (who can also line up at cornerback) and Wright restore some much-needed depth in the secondary. Mouton has more than a few detractors, many who say he’s just not that tough, but he’s a very good athlete who is learning to play in the front seven.



NO WAY is the Chiefs draft the least of this division.

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Old 05-03-2011, 11:48 AM   #31
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We weren't very good at stopping the run in 2009 either and Dumervil wound up leading the league in sacks.
In the 3-4........HUGE difference.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:50 AM   #32
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We weren't very good at stopping the run in 2009 either and Dumervil wound up leading the league in sacks.
Don't worry, we'll forget all about how Dumervil was on OLB in a 3-4 that year.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:50 AM   #33
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In the 3-4........HUGE difference.
It's ****ing rude to cut people off in traffic, you know.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:51 AM   #34
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We weren't very good at stopping the run in 2009 either and Dumervil wound up leading the league in sacks.
I wouldn't call that a very good argument for drafting Miller.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:52 AM   #35
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In the 3-4........HUGE difference.
We couldn't stop the run in Dumervil's first two years in the league (2006 and 2007) and Doom had 20 sacks combined in those years in the 4-3.
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:53 AM   #36
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Someone needs to make a thread about grading the draft from last year, the year before that and three yrs ago. Grading a bunch of players before they even play at the NFL Level is just wrong IMO
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Old 05-03-2011, 11:56 AM   #37
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We couldn't stop the run in Dumervil's first two years in the league (2006 and 2007) and Doom had 20 sacks combined in those years in the 4-3.
Wait wait wait...... Where hell is your sig?

Only fitting that you quite on that too

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Old 05-03-2011, 11:58 AM   #38
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Someone needs to make a thread about grading the draft from last year, the year before that and three yrs ago. Grading a bunch of players before they even play at the NFL Level is just wrong IMO
I actually agree with that. I've always thought immediate draft grades were silly.
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:16 PM   #41
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We couldn't stop the run in Dumervil's first two years in the league (2006 and 2007) and Doom had 20 sacks combined in those years in the 4-3.
Yeah.....and that was at the DE position. Dumervil didn't play LB in the 4-3 like Miller is going to be playing.
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:18 PM   #42
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No way. Same homeristic takes, basically the same name. I can smell a trolls mult from a mile away
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I'm not sure why anyone gives a flying f**k about draft grades right now. Nobody knows shit until AT LEAST the end of next season.
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Someone needs to make a thread about grading the draft from last year, the year before that and three yrs ago. Grading a bunch of players before they even play at the NFL Level is just wrong IMO
I've posted this in another thread:

Here's a few things people were saying the day after the 2005 draft:

SD - Wide receiver Vincent Jackson was a reach in round two.

JAX - Matt Jones, a WR-TE hybrid freak of nature, was a great first-round pick. He will become a great weapon for Byron Leftwich.

CLE - Perhaps the most important pick Romeo Crennel made was in the third round, when he took QB Charlie Frye, who will be the future of the Browns' organization.

OAK - Quarterback Andrew Walter, taken in the third round, has a powerful arm, and can fit into Oakland's system. Middle linebacker Kirk Morrison was a decent selection in the third round as well. Oakland really hit a home run in round six. They drafted DT Anntaj Hawthorne, DE Ryan Riddle and OT Pete McMahon, all very underrated players.

CIN - Cincinnati's first two picks--DE David Pollack and MLB Odell Thurman--will be stars on the Bengals' defense for a very long time.

DEN - Denver made two solid draft picks. Their second-round selection of Darrent Williams will give them a solid defensive back to pair up with Champ Bailey in the future. I am also a fan of the Maurice Clarett pick.

TEN - Tennessee drafted some good players, but they took them all about a round too early. Cornerback Pacman Jones is the exception, but Antrel Rolle could prove to be the better corner in this draft.

HOU - Houston's draft is headlined by two terrific players. The Texans chose DT Travis Johnson with their first-round pick, while WR Jerome Mathis may have been the steal of the draft in the fourth round.
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