Chiefs Manning or Orton? - Page 3

Titty Meat · 12-19-2011, 03:34 AM

Let's assume the Chiefs win another game or 2 putting them further back in the draft order. We know it's unlikely they will trade up to draft a QB as their past is well documented on here. Say you're the GM would you A. Re-sign Orton or B. Enter the Peyton Manning sweepstakes (guessing Manning will most likely be released and become a free agent).

Amnorix · 12-19-2011, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bane

Manning come to KC...HAHAHAHAHAHAHa!!!!!!

Why not? Seriously. This isn't the NBA. It's not Lakers or bust. Or Miami or bust.

I'm sure he'd prefer a dome or good weather stadium, but his entire career was in freaking Indianapolis. He wants to WIN, and he wants to be PAID. If he thinks he can do the former and will get the latter, I think he'll go anywhere.

Hell, he can even say "I'm just following in the footsteps of Joe Montana..."

bricks · 12-19-2011, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee

Now let's look at this.

Wiegmann needs to be gone, retire or cut him.
Richardson needs to be gone, cut him.
Lilja needs to be gone, cut him.

So that's 3 pieces out of 5 that need to be replaced / upgraded next year. If you are Manning do you come into a situation that is this unstable?

Chiefs have 3 good young offensive lineman right now in Albert, Hudson and Asamoah.

I agree Richardson needs to go. He is the reason why the Chiefs should draft an offensive tackle.

I could live with Lilja since he has experience playing behind Manning.

An Oline of:

LT Albert
LG Lilja
C Hudson
RG Asamoah
RT draft pick?

Would be sufficient for Manning. Plus he is the type of quarterback that would make his offensive line better. He's the best in the game at making quick snaps /reads and delivers a nice quick release better than anybody. The Olines job would be a heck of a lot easier. Aside from right tackle, I wouldn't worry too much about the offensive line.

If I'm Peyton, I have confidence in knowing what I'm capable of doing. I have confidence that I can make the players around me better and yes I feel that this line is stable enough for me.

trndobrd · 12-19-2011, 08:56 AM

If Indy doesn't draft Luck and bring Manning back for another season to help mentor their new stud QB, their entire front office should be fired.

That said, if Manning was on the market, I would prefer to leave him alone. Too much money, to broken, and too much chance the Chiefs front office will believe he is 'The Answer' to the QB situation.

Chiefnj2 · 12-19-2011, 09:11 AM

What is this obsession with an old broken down QB? If the Colts thought Manning had another 3 really good years left, they'd pay him.

He's done. Even if he was healthy enough to play, he's a crap fit in KC.

**007** · 12-19-2011, 09:17 AM

JFC would everyone get off of the Manning crap. He isn't going anywhere. He is retiring or playing out his years in Indy.

KC_Lee · 12-19-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

What is this obsession with an old broken down QB?

This is what we do. Since the Chiefs have never, in their history, drafted and developed a QB we are trained to get excited about other teams broke dick QBs.

Reerun_KC · 12-19-2011, 09:22 AM

I vote Neither.

I vote 1st rd qb and Stanzi....

Frazod · 12-19-2011, 09:22 AM

I don't really want him, but if the Chiefs sign Manning they instantly become the NFL's Flavor of the Week. That means it will be OUR offensive linemen who will be able to blatantly hold on every ****ing play, not the other team's. They might even start throwing flags on the Hali holds, too!

**Baby Lee** · 12-19-2011, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee

Yeah, it's one game. We've seen the Chiefs do this in the past.

Beaten a lot of SB champs, have they?

**J Diddy** · 12-19-2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Let's assume the Chiefs win another game or 2 putting them further back in the draft order. We know it's unlikely they will trade up to draft a QB as their past is well documented on here. Say you're the GM would you A. Re-sign Orton or B. Enter the Peyton Manning sweepstakes (guessing Manning will most likely be released and become a free agent).

I sincerely doubt that they would just let Manning go. He still has trade value and most likely will start over their 1st round draft pick next year.

My hunch tells me he is going to be used by Indy to groom his successor.

**Baby Lee** · 12-19-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MotherLover

I sincerely doubt that they would just let Manning go. He still has trade value and most likely will start over their 1st round draft pick next year.

My hunch tells me he is going to be used by Indy to groom his successor.

That's one expensive groomsman's gift.

**J Diddy** · 12-19-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

That's one expensive groomsman's gift.

True. However, and you can just call me crazy, if I had the opportunity to have a 1st round draft pick sit and learn from Peyton Manning for a year before I threw him to the wolves I would.

That and the financial impact of the high draft pick will be somewhat negated due to the rookie cap.

It's this or throw a rook to the wolves.

ChiefsCountry · 12-19-2011, 10:16 AM

Miami is going to get Peyton.

Imon Yourside · 12-19-2011, 10:16 AM

I'm sure Brady is available and represents the Patriot way.

**doomy3** · 12-19-2011, 10:20 AM

If we were talking about who we would rather sign on the FA market, then it's Manning. But the Colts aren't going to just release Manning. He will cost at least 2 first rounders IMO. Carson Palmer just cost the Raiders a first and a second at the minimum. No way in hell that Manning doesn't bring at least that. So I would rather draft a QB and sign Orton as a stop gap.

12-19-2011, 03:34 AM
Titty Meat Inmem 2.0 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: My house Casino cash: $1717558	Manning or Orton? Let's assume the Chiefs win another game or 2 putting them further back in the draft order. We know it's unlikely they will trade up to draft a QB as their past is well documented on here. Say you're the GM would you A. Re-sign Orton or B. Enter the Peyton Manning sweepstakes (guessing Manning will most likely be released and become a free agent).
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12-19-2011, 08:56 AM	#33
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12-19-2011, 09:11 AM	#34
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7813688	What is this obsession with an old broken down QB? If the Colts thought Manning had another 3 really good years left, they'd pay him. He's done. Even if he was healthy enough to play, he's a crap fit in KC. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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12-19-2011, 09:17 AM	#35
007 Shaken. Not stirred. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Casino cash: $13810126 VARSITY	JFC would everyone get off of the Manning crap. He isn't going anywhere. He is retiring or playing out his years in Indy.
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12-19-2011, 09:22 AM	#37
Reerun_KC Rock Chalk Jayhawks! KU!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $8241160	I vote Neither. I vote 1st rd qb and Stanzi....
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12-19-2011, 09:22 AM	#38
Frazod WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $2565085	I don't really want him, but if the Chiefs sign Manning they instantly become the NFL's Flavor of the Week. That means it will be OUR offensive linemen who will be able to blatantly hold on every ****ing play, not the other team's. They might even start throwing flags on the Hali holds, too!
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12-19-2011, 10:16 AM	#43
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12-19-2011, 10:20 AM	#45
doomy3 Supporter Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $4993539	If we were talking about who we would rather sign on the FA market, then it's Manning. But the Colts aren't going to just release Manning. He will cost at least 2 first rounders IMO. Carson Palmer just cost the Raiders a first and a second at the minimum. No way in hell that Manning doesn't bring at least that. So I would rather draft a QB and sign Orton as a stop gap.
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