well,I did it...projection big screen went out bought a 50 inch plasma

[John_Locke]

suprised the whole family.

our Big Projection screen bit the dust, and I brought the 27 inch to the living room and told the family that they woudl have to be satisfied with this for now becasue there jsut wasn't money in the budget for a new TV.

They handled it like troopers and I went to the tv store and got a 50 inch plasma



betting I don't get "aftershave" for valentines day
Dad got hosed
(from the verizon network commercial)

[Dallas Chief]

Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins

Hmmm...can't say I'm really surprised. It is a sony product ...I'd probably just wait until more companies produce the LCoS...Syntax-Brillian (Olevia) should have one out soon...

So why all the Sony hating from you? Just curious...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Dallas Chief

So why all the Sony hating from you? Just curious...

They make inferior products relative to their prices....

Their TVs are but one example...you generally pay 40% more for a PQ equal to or lesser than a Samsung.

Google "Sony mura effect" if you'd like....and this was a problem on their FLAGSHIP television....

Their A/V receivers are shitty as well, and the company is incredibly arrogant about their product....no recording on the Betamax, shutting out pr0n producers on Beta and now Blu-Ray...they think that b/c they are Sony that they can do whatever they'd like.

The playstation is a good product, but pretty much everything I've seen Sony, from DVD players to Car CD Players to HT Speakers are just shitty in relation to their price.

They are the Abercrombie of consumer electronics.

[ChiefaRoo]

News Flash!..... umm, nevermind

[epitome1170]

I have been considering getting a big screen the last few weeks and have pretty much narrowed my search down to 3 tvs: Samsung HL S5687W (DLP), Sony KDS 55A2000, or the Mitsubishi WD 57731.

Does anyone have any first hand knowledge with these? Or any advice on which one would be best for me? All of them are comparable in price ($2000) and size (55") and they all have the 1080 resolution.

[Miles]

Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins

Their TVs are but one example...you generally pay 40% more for a PQ equal to or lesser than a Samsung.

Google "Sony mura effect" if you'd like....and this was a problem on their FLAGSHIP television....

The Samsung 1080p LCD's have the same problems.

In general I would tend to agree with you about Sony being overpriced. However, the ES line of A/V components and the XBR line of TVs are typically very solid.

[Skip Towne]

Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins

Their A/V receivers are shitty as well, and the company is incredibly arrogant about their product....no recording on the Betamax, shutting out pr0n producers on Beta and now Blu-Ray...they think that b/c they are Sony that they can do whatever they'd like.



They are the Abercrombie of consumer electronics.

Absolutely right. They completely ignore industry standards. As much as Directv and Dis Notwork hate each other they agreed on the size of the mounting pole. Not Sony, though, they made theirs smaller. And LNB's cost around $25 for D* and E*. $125 for Sony and they were unreliable. Dealers wouldn't stock them because of the price. When we find a bad Sony LNB we not only have to change the whole dish but the pole as well. I would never buy Sony because of these practices.

[Dallas Chief]

Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins

They make inferior products relative to their prices....

Their TVs are but one example...you generally pay 40% more for a PQ equal to or lesser than a Samsung.

Google "Sony mura effect" if you'd like....and this was a problem on their FLAGSHIP television....

Their A/V receivers are shitty as well, and the company is incredibly arrogant about their product....no recording on the Betamax, shutting out pr0n producers on Beta and now Blu-Ray...they think that b/c they are Sony that they can do whatever they'd like.

The playstation is a good product, but pretty much everything I've seen Sony, from DVD players to Car CD Players to HT Speakers are just shitty in relation to their price.

They are the Abercrombie of consumer electronics.

Have you had a bad experience with them before or have you always refused to pay their prices?

[Dallas Chief]

Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins

They make inferior products relative to their prices....


Their A/V receivers are shitty as well, and the company is incredibly arrogant about their product....

Some people disagree. I think is was Home Theatre Mag that named the new 5200 ES receiver the "New Boss". Maybe it was Sterophile? I forget. I left the issue on my desk.

[Dallas Chief]

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Absolutely right. They completely ignore industry standards. As much as Directv and Dis Notwork hate each other they agreed on the size of the mounting pole. Not Sony, though, they made theirs smaller. And LNB's cost around $25 for D* and E*. $125 for Sony and they were unreliable. Dealers wouldn't stock them because of the price. When we find a bad Sony LNB we not only have to change the whole dish but the pole as well. I would never buy Sony because of these practices.

It's a good thing we got out of that business then. Lost money hand over fist, even charging crazy prices for LNB's and whatnot.

[Iowanian]

Somewhere, the owner of one of those predatory Payday loan shops is eating well tonight.

I think you should have just given the money to help the cheerleaders get new skorts, and stayed with the perfectly fine 27".

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Dallas Chief

Some people disagree. I think is was Home Theatre Mag that named the new 5200 ES receiver the "New Boss". Maybe it was Sterophile? I forget. I left the issue on my desk.

You take that, and I'll take an Onkyo TX-NR1000 that will whip it's ass 8 out of 7 days a week.

Sony is a lot like Bose...they pay a lot for advertising in said pub's and b/c of that, they get repped beyond the true quality of their product. If their products get bashed, they pull their ad $

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Dallas Chief

Have you had a bad experience with them before or have you always refused to pay their prices?

I've sold Sony products before that were shit (like their A/V receivers whose power they vastly overrate). I've bought shit Sony products (a CD player that blew a PC board after 6 months and couldn't get fixed after 3 trips to the repair shop, a Discman that never worked worth a damn)

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Miles

The Samsung 1080p LCD's have the same problems.

In general I would tend to agree with you about Sony being overpriced. However, the ES line of A/V components and the XBR line of TVs are typically very solid.

Given the XBR's and the mura effect...a 3400 TV should have far fewer probs than a 2500 dollar TV of equal size, but they've actually had more. Check out AVS Forum or HDTV Voice for confirmation.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by epitome1170

I have been considering getting a big screen the last few weeks and have pretty much narrowed my search down to 3 tvs: Samsung HL S5687W (DLP), Sony KDS 55A2000, or the Mitsubishi WD 57731.

Does anyone have any first hand knowledge with these? Or any advice on which one would be best for me? All of them are comparable in price ($2000) and size (55") and they all have the 1080 resolution.

One of my best friends has the Samsung...it's a great TV. Plenty bright even when off torch mode. Mits makes a great TV too, so it would be hard to argue them as well.

[ChiefFan31]

Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins

If you are going over 40", at this point, you should probably go with an LCoS...You can get a Sony SXRD 50" for 2 Grand that has full 1080p (and I personally don't like Sony, but this is a great TV).

The TV you described above I have. I have no complaints.

I also agree, anything 40" and under LCD all the way. They will get bigger and cheaper just as Plasmas will be going the way of the Do-Do bird. Plasma is an outdated technology, for reasons already covered in this thread. They sure do look good for the first couple of years though.