Goodbye Redskins and Indians and Braves and Chiefs

[Prison Bitch]

Rick Reilly, Columnist ESPN


Besides, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said last week that if "even one person is offended" on this issue, we need to "listen."

One person?

Got it. Guess we need to listen to people who are offended by the Kansas City Chiefs' name, too. That's one that offends my father-in-law. "You see some little guy wearing a headdress made of chicken feathers," he says, "painting his face up, making a mockery of us. I hate that. Those are things you earn."



Doesn't matter. The 81-year-old Washington Redskins name is falling, and everybody better get out of the way. For the majority of Native Americans who don't care, we'll care for them. For the Native Americans who haven't asked for help, we're glad to give it to them.

Trust us. We know what's best. We'll take this away for your own good, and put up barriers that protect you from ever being harmed again.

Kind of like a reservation.


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/96...ot-easy-sounds

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

I dunno, I think I would be totally offended if a team was called the Paleskins.

That shit right there is unacceptable.

I dunno, the fightin whities were really popular.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Whites

[CoMoChief]

stupid

[rabblerouser]

I'm an American Indian, and a lifelong Chiefs fan.

I am also not a pussy.

If the Jaguars moved to LA, we could rename them the Los Angeles Crackers and I couldn't care less.

Of course, that wouldn't be very accurate, but still - you get my point.

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Native American here.

Europeans killed my ancestors and gave them smallpocks while taking their land and raping their women.

Why should I care about a football team named after my people?

Are you white folks offended at the 'Fighting Irish' stereotypical mascot?
What about the Tarheels? There was a time when that term, too, was offensive to some.
What about the gamecocks? We are ok with using a name that is reminiscent of animal cruelty in the cock-fighting game?

As a society, I think we should be less concerned about a few NA's getting their feelings hurt, and maybe use that same energy to provide assistance to the reservation communities across the country that battle poverty, lack of job availability, alcohol and drug abuse and a poor infrastructure every day. If you really care about these people and want to help them, then changing the name of a sports team is not the way to do it.

I am Irish, and no it does not offend me.

And you are correct on the other two points you make about team names.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

I dunno, I think I would be totally offended if a team was called the Paleskins.

That shit right there is unacceptable.

We do. They're called the Vikings.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

F'ing stupid. Insecure much?

[DJJasonp]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Native American here.

Europeans killed my ancestors and gave them smallpocks while taking their land and raping their women.

Why should I care about a football team named after my people?

Are you white folks offended at the 'Fighting Irish' stereotypical mascot?
What about the Tarheels? There was a time when that term, too, was offensive to some.
What about the gamecocks? We are ok with using a name that is reminiscent of animal cruelty in the cock-fighting game?

As a society, I think we should be less concerned about a few NA's getting their feelings hurt, and maybe use that same energy to provide assistance to the reservation communities across the country that battle poverty, lack of job availability, alcohol and drug abuse and a poor infrastructure every day. If you really care about these people and want to help them, then changing the name of a sports team is not the way to do it.

Excellent post.

The problem is, people such as peter king want to SOUND like they care.

[Molitoth]

Another stupid thing:

When brown/black People (born in America) refer to themselves as African-Americans.

JFC, I am not a Swedish American.... I am White, you are Brown, Smurfs are blue... it's just an adjective.


Unless you were born in Africa, and come over to live in America... you are NOT an african American.

[Lonewolf Ed]

I am half Danish and the Vikings offend me mainly because they suck and they wear purple. As a Dane, I realize I am very much a minority, but do my Swedish and Norwegian brothers come and join me in protesting the Vikings? Noooo.

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Another stupid thing:

When brown/black People (born in America) refer to themselves as African-Americans.

JFC, I am not a Swedish American.... I am White, you are Brown, Smurfs are blue... it's just an adjective.


Unless you were born in Africa, and come over to live in America... you are NOT an african American.

To be fair...there really isn't a negative Swedish connotation that white people use to belittle your heritage...such as the N-word. If there is...please let me know so that I can start using it among friends.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by Strongside

To be fair...there really isn't a negative Swedish connotation that white people use to belittle your heritage...such as the N-word. If there is...please let me know so that I can start using it among friends.

I didn't say the N-word was ok. I said that there is a difference between "African American" and the description of a skin color.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Strongside

To be fair...there really isn't a negative Swedish connotation that white people use to belittle your heritage...such as the N-word. If there is...please let me know so that I can start using it among friends.

curious, you tailgate by Raider Willie?

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by stevieray

curious, you tailgate by Raider Willie?

SE corner of Lot-A. We're the huge group with a keg and large speakers. American flag above a Chiefs flag above a KU flag. Tell Raider Willie to come find me and I'll give him 2 chops to the throat.

[2bikemike]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

I dunno, the fightin whities were really popular.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Whites

I remember this! Our company had a presence on that university. I wished I would have gotten one of those shirts.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe

This is one of the worst ****ing columns ever written.

And here's how the flow chart should look on this issue:

Is your team name a racial slur?
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Yes
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THEN ****ING CHANGE IT

Jesus Christ, it's that ****ing simple. And all this whining about political correctness and "the white man's burden" (what the **** is this, a soap ad from the 19th century?) is utter bullshit. Historical context matters, whether you and your blinded-by-privilege myopic worldview like it or not.

Idiots.