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Deberg_1990 · 08-05-2010, 10:07 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/05/...ex.html?hpt=T2

Miami, Florida (CNN) -- A Florida man who admitted to the near-fatal beating of his 2-year-old son while teaching him how to box remained behind bars Thursday after a judge charged him with second-degree murder and denied him bond.

Lee Willie Dejesus, 23, of Homestead, appeared in court Wednesday night wearing a green protective vest, reserved for those on suicide watch, reported CNN affiliate WFOR.

His son -- identified by CNN affiliate WSVN as Willy Brown -- was on life support Wednesday and not expected to recover from his injuries, said Ed Griffith, spokesman for the Miami-Dade state attorney's office.

Prosecutors said they plan to file first-degree murder charges once the child dies.

Miami-Dade police said Dejesus was watching the child while his mother was at work Monday night.

He told police that he put on boxing gloves and struck the child about 15 times on his face, head, torso and shoulders over a period of 15 minutes, punching him so hard at one point that the boy fell off the bed and struck his head on the tile floor.

The child was rushed to Children's Hospital where he underwent surgery for bleeding on the brain. Griffith said the boy may be brain dead.

A criminal complaint alleges that Dejesus waited to call for medical help for as long as an hour after the boy became unresponsive.

He eventually called 911 after the boy's lips became blue, according to the complaint.

Dejesus initially told police that the boy was beaten by a babysitter before admitting he did it, the complaint says.

KCUnited · 08-05-2010, 10:32 AM

My 2 year old can burp the alphabet and play South of Heaven on the drums, but I never put my hands on him.

**Donger** · 08-05-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

Donger. Have you never wrestled with your son? What's the difference between you throwing him on the bed and he falls off and hits his head on the floor, then you're painted as the child abuser who threw his son off the bed?

This article is very slanted. Like I said... If it stated he had injuries to the head shoulders and torso then burn the fugger's assole shut with repeated incents. I can only assume the only injury the child suffered was the head injury as I'm sure cnn would've reported all the injuries. But this seems like playing gone wrong.

Did you even read the story or the multiple cuts which state that HE HIT THE KID SO HARD...?

As to your question, sure, I play fight with my son (and my daughter). They are eight and six, however.

allen_kcCard · 08-05-2010, 10:33 AM

WTF....

Did he really beat him? Or just make a lapse in judgement when he "boxed" the boy while he was standing on a bed where he could fall off and hit the floor? I thought at first that he was full on punching him, and that was where the injuries came from, but reading into it I think now that he gut hurt when he fell. The part about not calling 911 is more damning, but even that can be seen in a variety of ways. The lying that it was a babysitter is pretty much black and white though.

This article could have been written in another way to completely change the inflection...like, Father was playing with his son pretending to box, was done in poor judgement on a bed and when the young boy tumbled off the bed he hit his head on the floor. He didn't call 991 immediately because he thought the injuries were not that bad, but after an hour the child begame unresponsive and his lips turned blue. Then the part about the lying about a babysitter doing it, but I wonder on that part again if that came up beause the kid was beat up, or if they asked what happened to cause the head injury.

Completely a terrible story all the way around, regardless, but the article just struck me as odd in how it said one thing up front, and then seemed to leave a lot of gaps. I'll gladly say the dude should rot in prison if he was really doing harm to the boy with the punches, but I will say I feel heartfelt sorrow for him if he was truely only playing with the boy and an accident happened that he not only has to live without his child, but also pay for the consequences legally as well.

I know I have played with my children many times in ways I could see this as having happening...be it with a pillow where I throw it at them to knock them down on the floor, with them laughing histerically the entire time, or something else where I pick them up and raise them above my head. Someone could write that in a way that says I was brutally pummeling them with a nearby pillow, not allowing them to get up and escape over a quarter hour of endlessly knocking them back to the ground when they try to stuggle to their feet.

Anyway, not trying to come off as sympathizing as someone that is in jail for abuse, but just pointing out thoughts I had on it as I read it. Absolute sympathy for the child and anyone affected by losing him.

allen_kcCard · 08-05-2010, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by wutamess

As bad as it sounds... It may not be so bad. I'd play with my 2yo with boxing gloves. more pushing him with hits instead of actual hits. Whatever, the case... It sounds like it'd be an aweful ordeal to go through. Playful game that went wrong.

I'd see if there was actual other damage to indicate that the little boy was hit too hard. But if the only injury was head trauma because of the fall this might be a game each one of us dad's would play with our kids.

Agreed, and what I was getting at in my post below that took me a lot longer to type out.

allen_kcCard · 08-05-2010, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Yes, all good fun.

punching him so hard at one point that the boy fell off the bed and struck his head on the tile floor.

I could fart on a 2 year old too hard and have that happen.

kepp · 08-05-2010, 10:35 AM

I can see both sides of the issue. Obviously it was stupid to put on boxing gloves with a two year old. But, really...kids fall off beds 50% of the time they're playing on them...all on their own. Like roger said, if there had been reports of other injuries besides the hit on the head from the tile floor then, yes, he deserves 1st degree murder. If the only injury relevant to death was the hit on the head from the tile floor, then it should be involuntary man slaughter.

**The Franchise** · 08-05-2010, 10:35 AM

So you're telling me that you've put boxing gloves on your two year old.....and hit them for 15 minutes? That's not play fighting or rough housing.......

MOhillbilly · 08-05-2010, 10:35 AM

Ok so i broke my pops rib and collar bone in the 6th grade but other than that.............the nextime i went to KC my uncle said " im gonna tell you like my dad told me. from here on out its for real. You wanna get roundy, were gonna get roudy like men." never roughed house with him again, though i did slam my other uncle at 15.
goodtimes.

wutamess · 08-05-2010, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Most kids are just walking at two, BD. There's a difference between two and three.

BS!... Most kids are walking before 1yo. (I have 5 I should know all walked before 9 mos).

2nd... Push hits are not strikes. and I've push hit my son in the head. It's more pushing when we're playing. IF... BIG IF he was repeatedly STRUCK to all these places wouldn't there be bruising and signs of trauma. By CNN not reporting the other injuries, I can only assume there aren't any which leads me to believe the "strikes" weren't really strikes as that would be vital to the story.

Then I put myself in the guys shoes... If I was playing with my kid and he fell off the bed and hit his head. I'd feel bad being labeled a child abuser. Bad parenting on waiting to call for help tho

allen_kcCard · 08-05-2010, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

Let's just say this plain as day - you are wrong. You don't do this shit with a 2 year old kid. You don't smack your kids hard in the head, chest or torso - ever. I have a teenager, and we play around, but NEVER do I strike him in an area that could be dangerous. If I accidentally do so, it would only be once, then the playing stops, and I apologize for the miss-hit. This POS repeatedly beat his son, thinking he was Julio Ceasar Chavez . Seriously, wake the **** up.

Where in that article do you see anything to say that he did this?

**DaFace** · 08-05-2010, 10:37 AM

I actually agree with wutamess. It's entirely possible that the "punches" were playful and that this was all an accident. If the kid has bruises from the impact of the punches themselves, then by all means, 1st degree murder it is. But if the kid wasn't being hurt by the punches and simply fell off and hit his head, that's a very different situation.

**ChiTown** · 08-05-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by allen_kcCard

Where in that article do you see anything to say that he did this?

He told police that he put on boxing gloves and struck the child about 15 times on his face, head, torso and shoulders over a period of 15 minutes,

**cdcox** · 08-05-2010, 10:39 AM

[QUOTE=wutamess;6918320]Donger. Have you never wrestled with your son? What's the difference between you throwing him on the bed and he falls off and hits his head on the floor, then you're painted as the child abuser who threw his son off the bed?n[\quote]

I wresteled with my daughter when she was young. At no time was ther even the most remote possibility of her falling off the bed, because I was in complete control of the situation. If she were to lose her balance and start falling, I was there to grab her. No way would I ever use enough force to fling her or knock her off balance. Kids joints, ligements and especily the neck are pretty fragile. You have to be aware of that 100% of the time.

**DaFace** · 08-05-2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Yes, all good fun.

punching him so hard at one point that the boy fell off the bed and struck his head on the tile floor.

That's interpretation, not necessarily fact. A two-year-old doesn't exactly have the best balance. You could scare them, and they could stumble and fall off of the bed.

Like I said, if there was actual injury caused by the punching itself, that's different, but we can't tell that from the article.

Consistent1 · 08-05-2010, 10:41 AM

It's hard to justify it in anyway period. ****ing boxing gloves AND on a bed? C'mon. People get in trouble with DCFS for not really doing much of anything, or when the kid hurts themselves. One wouldn't think he was trying to hurt the child, but who knows what goes through some people's head. Very stupid.

08-05-2010, 10:07 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3474454	Father Nearly Beats His 2 Year Old to Death Teaching Him to Box http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/05/...ex.html?hpt=T2 Miami, Florida (CNN) -- A Florida man who admitted to the near-fatal beating of his 2-year-old son while teaching him how to box remained behind bars Thursday after a judge charged him with second-degree murder and denied him bond. Lee Willie Dejesus, 23, of Homestead, appeared in court Wednesday night wearing a green protective vest, reserved for those on suicide watch, reported CNN affiliate WFOR. His son -- identified by CNN affiliate WSVN as Willy Brown -- was on life support Wednesday and not expected to recover from his injuries, said Ed Griffith, spokesman for the Miami-Dade state attorney's office. Prosecutors said they plan to file first-degree murder charges once the child dies. Miami-Dade police said Dejesus was watching the child while his mother was at work Monday night. He told police that he put on boxing gloves and struck the child about 15 times on his face, head, torso and shoulders over a period of 15 minutes, punching him so hard at one point that the boy fell off the bed and struck his head on the tile floor. The child was rushed to Children's Hospital where he underwent surgery for bleeding on the brain. Griffith said the boy may be brain dead. A criminal complaint alleges that Dejesus waited to call for medical help for as long as an hour after the boy became unresponsive. He eventually called 911 after the boy's lips became blue, according to the complaint. Dejesus initially told police that the boy was beaten by a babysitter before admitting he did it, the complaint says.
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08-05-2010, 10:33 AM	#33
allen_kcCard Veteran Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $4263183	WTF.... Did he really beat him? Or just make a lapse in judgement when he "boxed" the boy while he was standing on a bed where he could fall off and hit the floor? I thought at first that he was full on punching him, and that was where the injuries came from, but reading into it I think now that he gut hurt when he fell. The part about not calling 911 is more damning, but even that can be seen in a variety of ways. The lying that it was a babysitter is pretty much black and white though. This article could have been written in another way to completely change the inflection...like, Father was playing with his son pretending to box, was done in poor judgement on a bed and when the young boy tumbled off the bed he hit his head on the floor. He didn't call 991 immediately because he thought the injuries were not that bad, but after an hour the child begame unresponsive and his lips turned blue. Then the part about the lying about a babysitter doing it, but I wonder on that part again if that came up beause the kid was beat up, or if they asked what happened to cause the head injury. Completely a terrible story all the way around, regardless, but the article just struck me as odd in how it said one thing up front, and then seemed to leave a lot of gaps. I'll gladly say the dude should rot in prison if he was really doing harm to the boy with the punches, but I will say I feel heartfelt sorrow for him if he was truely only playing with the boy and an accident happened that he not only has to live without his child, but also pay for the consequences legally as well. I know I have played with my children many times in ways I could see this as having happening...be it with a pillow where I throw it at them to knock them down on the floor, with them laughing histerically the entire time, or something else where I pick them up and raise them above my head. Someone could write that in a way that says I was brutally pummeling them with a nearby pillow, not allowing them to get up and escape over a quarter hour of endlessly knocking them back to the ground when they try to stuggle to their feet. Anyway, not trying to come off as sympathizing as someone that is in jail for abuse, but just pointing out thoughts I had on it as I read it. Absolute sympathy for the child and anyone affected by losing him.
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08-05-2010, 10:35 AM	#36
kepp MVP Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $5119212	I can see both sides of the issue. Obviously it was stupid to put on boxing gloves with a two year old. But, really...kids fall off beds 50% of the time they're playing on them...all on their own. Like roger said, if there had been reports of other injuries besides the hit on the head from the tile floor then, yes, he deserves 1st degree murder. If the only injury relevant to death was the hit on the head from the tile floor, then it should be involuntary man slaughter.
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08-05-2010, 10:35 AM	#37
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08-05-2010, 10:37 AM	#41
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1486899	I actually agree with wutamess. It's entirely possible that the "punches" were playful and that this was all an accident. If the kid has bruises from the impact of the punches themselves, then by all means, 1st degree murder it is. But if the kid wasn't being hurt by the punches and simply fell off and hit his head, that's a very different situation.
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08-05-2010, 10:39 AM	#43
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2031769	[QUOTE=wutamess;6918320]Donger. Have you never wrestled with your son? What's the difference between you throwing him on the bed and he falls off and hits his head on the floor, then you're painted as the child abuser who threw his son off the bed?n[\quote] I wresteled with my daughter when she was young. At no time was ther even the most remote possibility of her falling off the bed, because I was in complete control of the situation. If she were to lose her balance and start falling, I was there to grab her. No way would I ever use enough force to fling her or knock her off balance. Kids joints, ligements and especily the neck are pretty fragile. You have to be aware of that 100% of the time.
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08-05-2010, 10:41 AM	#45
Consistent1 _____________ Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $10004900	It's hard to justify it in anyway period. ****ing boxing gloves AND on a bed? C'mon. People get in trouble with DCFS for not really doing much of anything, or when the kid hurts themselves. One wouldn't think he was trying to hurt the child, but who knows what goes through some people's head. Very stupid.
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