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Old 03-16-2010, 02:26 PM  
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Well we know Lilja is a bad signing now
http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/1253

The Chiefs' best move
Adam Teicher

Most of their recent free agent signings have the potential to make the Chiefs a better team.

Thomas Jones could, if he hasn't hit the wall that so many over-30 running backs do. Shaun Smith could, if he listens to and is motivated by Romeo Crennel. Jerheme Urban could, if he can catch the ball more consistently than Bobby Wade. Casey Wiegmann could, if he can play for the Chiefs as he did his first time around.

No coulds about Ryan Lilja, though. He will make the Chiefs a better team, period.

Consider what he does for their offensive line. He fills the considerable gap at right guard and all of a sudden, that line doesn't look so shaky.

His intangibles are an even bigger plus for the Chiefs. Other than Mike Vrabel, who probably has no more than one season left in him, the Chiefs had no player who knew what it was like to be a major part of something special.

Thanks to Lilja's six seasons with the Colts, they do now. And Lilja, who signed a three-year deal, is no short-timer. He'll be 29 in October, so he should be a part of what Scott Pioli and Todd Haley are trying to build for years to come.

So while I like the Chiefs' first four outside free agent moves, they all come with qualifiers. We might be looking back at those guys next year as yet more Chiefs' free agent failures.

Not so with Ryan Lilja. This guy has winner written all over him.
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:17 PM   #31
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Getting something in return, much less a high 2nd and 5th round pick isn't "walking away" from anyone.

Now, if you want to argue that the Rams got the better end of that deal, I'll listen.

But to claim that Indy let Marshall walk is ridiculous.

I would say that the Rams did get the better end of the deal. NFL MVP, 3 time Off. player of the year, a super bowl. He was one of the most productive backs in the league during his time in STL.
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:22 PM   #32
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One mans trash is another mans treasure.
I think the fear here is more that one man's treasure (Colts) ends up being another man's trash (us). Or, since they let Lilja go, that one man's trash turns into another man's trash.

Uhh..

Lilja is overrated.

There...
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:22 PM   #33
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The Colts have been pretty good over time in talent evaluation...


EXCEPT FOR OLINEMEN

I have read through three Colts boards and all of them have one thing in common when they talked about Lilja: Polian cant evaluate offensive linemen for shit.

Other things that were pretty universal were that Lilja was their second best linemen -and- now that Howard Mudd is completely gone and retired, they are going to go with a bigger offensive line and blocking scheme and that doesnt fit a 290 pound guard.

The only place I read that he failed a physical was here. I didnt pay attention too much to that conversation, can someone link where it said he failed a physical for Indy?
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:30 PM   #34
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The Colts have been pretty good over time in talent evaluation...


EXCEPT FOR OLINEMEN

I have read through three Colts boards and all of them have one thing in common when they talked about Lilja: Polian cant evaluate offensive linemen for shit.

Other things that were pretty universal were that Lilja was their second best linemen -and- now that Howard Mudd is completely gone and retired, they are going to go with a bigger offensive line and blocking scheme and that doesnt fit a 290 pound guard.

The only place I read that he failed a physical was here. I didnt pay attention too much to that conversation, can someone link where it said he failed a physical for Indy?
I saw it on Rotoworld but it sounded more like just speculation.

I like the signing. I think it is an improvment.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...ilter_teams=KC
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:42 PM   #35
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I saw it on Rotoworld but it sounded more like just speculation.

I like the signing. I think it is an improvment.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...ilter_teams=KC
It's NOT speculation and has been reported by more than one source.
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:47 PM   #36
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It's NOT speculation and has been reported by more than one source.
then show me a factual link please, because three colts boards dont know anything about it.

Im not saying you are wrong, just that I want to see it with my own eyes.
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Lilja is in for a rude awakening when he has Cassel to protect instead of Peyton Manning.
Yeah.... I can envision the conversation between them the first second third fourth twenty fifth time Cassel holds the ball too long and gets sacked...

"WTF Matt? Peyton would have thrown 3 TDs in the time it took you to make that 7 step drop."
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Teicher liking this move means he will suck donkey balls.
What makes you say that? Is it because a lot of times when Teicher comments on something it turns out to be the opposite?
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I hate that Teicher likes this move. I like that Babb likes this move, and I think we can all agree that having a solid competition at RG is going to be awesome. You will have Lilja, Neiswanger, and Colin Brown all competing for RG in camp. Talk about addressing a serious position of need!!
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I hope the Colts ****ed up. But what are the chances of it? Watch Lilja regress and Alleman shine. Holy shitballs, this place will go insane.
neva gonna happen... Herm & Carl are gone, bro.
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If Alleman starts all 16 games for the Colts next season and makes something crazy like the Pro Bowl I'll probably give up watching the NFL.

Good. Will you please give up posting here too ?
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