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Old 10-19-2009, 09:54 PM  
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I told you my theory... that God loves the Broncos.

I told you my theory... that God loves the Broncos. How else could a team have only one (1) real offensive TD + a questionable TD... and yet still win the game? How many miracle wins can a team rack up in the first six games? How else can a team suck, & yet still be undefeated? It can't be just blind luck. It HAS to be divine intervention.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:39 PM   #31
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That's bullshit that some players want to win more than others or "know" how to win. You know how you win? You be a good football player. It's not ****ing philosophy.
I agree with all of your above points but not this. We still have guys on our team who just can't do it mentally. Peyton Hillis is a good example. He barely sees the field this year because he's screwed up so much. On the other end of the spectrum is a guy like Dawkins. He's 36 years old and still playing at a high level. In fact he charges up the entire D with his attitude.

Other than that-you can see when guys aren't giving their best effort. You can see by their body language and it shows up in their play. It becomes obvious as a game wears on and it shows up in critical situations.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:40 PM   #32
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That's bullshit that some players want to win more than others or "know" how to win.
True... but what team can get its ass kicked all game long & then have a bad, game-losing pass get tipped into the hands of its errant receiver for the win? What team can then have yet another ball tipped, tipped & juggled for another miraculous game-winner? What team can manage only one (1) real offensive TD against a division opponent, & yet end up with 34 points? Only the Broncos. Because God is on their side.

And yet He, in His wisdom, always seems to pull the rug out from under them in the post-season. Oh sure - he gave them two fleeting moments in NFL history when HorseFace led the team. But since then He has denied them the Prize. Only the truth of the Bronco Late Season Slide remains to keep the faith within me.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:40 PM   #33
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I wonder how differently things would be right now if McDaniels had followed Pioli to KC, and Denver ended up with Haley.
Its obvious the Chiefs would be 6-0 and the Broncos would be 1-5
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:40 PM   #34
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Not to change topics, but given what happened to Jesus, do you think Social Services would have taken him away from God if they'd been around back then? It'd be pretty wild to be some foster parent and one night they bring Jesus over and ask you to keep him for a while.

Depends on whether you believe in the Trinity or not, I guess.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:40 PM   #35
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I wonder how differently things would be right now if McDaniels had followed Pioli to KC, and Denver ended up with Haley.
The Broncos would still have Cutler
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:44 PM   #36
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True... but what team can get its ass kicked all game long & then have a bad, game-losing pass get tipped into the hands of its errant receiver for the win? What team can then have yet another ball tipped, tipped & juggled for another miraculous game-winner? What team can manage only one (1) real offensive TD against a division opponent, & yet end up with 34 points? Only the Broncos. Because God is on their side.

And yet He, in His wisdom, always seems to pull the rug out from under them in the post-season. Oh sure - he gave them two fleeting moments in NFL history when HorseFace led the team. But since then He has denied them the Prize. Only the truth of the Bronco Late Season Slide remains to keep the faith within me.
It's because you are trying to rationalize away as many points as you possibly can. Stokely made that catch, the ball broke the plane while he had possession. They also kicked FG's, and they count. And, by the way, if you take away all the kicks returned for TD's in tonight's game...we still win 20-16.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:45 PM   #37
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Amazing the lack of respect.

First, it was 3-0 because "they hadn't beat anyone. Dallas will beat them."

4-0.

"Ah, Dallas is crappier than we thought. The Patriots will smoke 'em."

5-0.

"Ah, the Patriots didn't play well, and the Broncos are really lucky. The Chargers will expose them as frauds."

6-0.


Hats off, Denver. While I'm still skeptical that Orton can get you deep into the playoffs, you guys made all the right moves on defense, from hiring Nolan to your FA signings/trades.
Shocking. I apparently struck a nerve with one of you.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:46 PM   #38
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True... but what team can get its ass kicked all game long & then have a bad, game-losing pass get tipped into the hands of its errant receiver for the win? What team can then have yet another ball tipped, tipped & juggled for another miraculous game-winner? What team can manage only one (1) real offensive TD against a division opponent, & yet end up with 34 points? Only the Broncos. Because God is on their side.

And yet He, in His wisdom, always seems to pull the rug out from under them in the post-season. Oh sure - he gave them two fleeting moments in NFL history when HorseFace led the team. But since then He has denied them the Prize. Only the truth of the Bronco Late Season Slide remains to keep the faith within me.

The 1997/1998 stuff was obviously a deal with the devil that was made behind God's back. I suspect that's the situation now, too. It's not that God loves the Broncos, it's that he's not going to watch them if some other game is on, so he's not paying attention to them right now. Any day God is going to pick up the sports page, see the standings, and say, "What the - ?" and the next day there'll be lightning strikes all over the Broncos' practice facility.
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I agree with all of your above points but not this. We still have guys on our team who just can't do it mentally. Peyton Hillis is a good example. He barely sees the field this year because he's screwed up so much. On the other end of the spectrum is a guy like Dawkins. He's 36 years old and still playing at a high level. In fact he charges up the entire D with his attitude.

Other than that-you can see when guys aren't giving their best effort. You can see by their body language and it shows up in their play. It becomes obvious as a game wears on and it shows up in critical situations.
Then that makes Peyton Hillis not a good player. It's that simple. I agree that it has to do with his attitude, endurence, and work ethic, but that makes him not a good player.

What I'm arguing about is this other reeruned junk I hear from ESPN about guys like Roethlisberger. Great QB, no doubt. Know why he "finishes" games? Because he takes his time getting used to the pace of the defense. He's quick-thinking, strong, and big. He's a good QB. It's not because he "knows" how to win games. The fact that he has as many championships as he does versus a guy like Drew Brees is purely based on the talent around him and what the coaches do to put him in a position to win. He's a good enough player that he takes those situations and converts more often than not.

Then there are some players who are simply lucky. Steve Kerr in the NBA is the best example I can think of. Does he know how to win championships or was he lucky enough to play alongside Jordan and Duncan, two of the best players in NBA history?
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The 1997/1998 stuff was obviously a deal with the devil that was made behind God's back. I suspect that's the situation now, too. It's not that God loves the Broncos, it's that he's not going to watch them if some other game is on, so he's not paying attention to them right now. Any day God is going to pick up the sports page, see the standings, and say, "What the - ?" and the next day there'll be lightning strikes all over the Broncos' practice facility.
The sooner, the better... please.
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Any day God is going to pick up the sports page, see the standings, and say, "What the - ?" and the next day there'll be lightning strikes all over the Broncos' practice facility.
I like that! I like the way you preach the Word! That quote is what I'll take from this miserable night...

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Then that makes Peyton Hillis not a good player. It's that simple. I agree that it has to do with his attitude, endurence, and work ethic, but that makes him not a good player.

What I'm arguing about is this other reeruned junk I hear from ESPN about guys like Roethlisberger. Great QB, no doubt. Know why he "finishes" games? Because he takes his time getting used to the pace of the defense. He's quick-thinking, strong, and big. He's a good QB. It's not because he "knows" how to win games. The fact that he has as many championships as he does versus a guy like Drew Brees is purely based on the talent around him and what the coaches do to put him in a position to win. He's a good enough player that he takes those situations and converts more often than not.

Then there are some players who are simply lucky. Steve Kerr in the NBA is the best example I can think of. Does he know how to win championships or was he lucky enough to play alongside Jordan and Duncan, two of the best players in NBA history?

Yeah, I know what you mean about the sportscasters using catchphrases and buzzwords. I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt if they have impressed me in the past, like Jaworski for instance. I just shake my head and turn the channel if it's somebody like Matt Millen. Hillis though, he did very well last year and now he's doing poorly. It's mental, and partly McD's system. He still has the same skill set.
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Well, I always assumed the Raiders were in league with Satan... it just makes sense. But I'm not sure how KC got on God's bad side.
Isn't it obvious?

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I wonder how differently things would be right now if McDaniels had followed Pioli to KC, and Denver ended up with Haley.
Thats easy!

Chiefs would be 6-0

Denver would be 1-5

Brandon Marshall, Eddie Royal and Elvis Dummerville would have all been cut for not doing it the "Haley Way"
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