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People need to stop with being disappointed by Dorsey and Jackson poor sack numbers, or poor pass rush if you prefer.
Do you realize this Chiefs defense with Dorsey and Jackson starting all 16 games finished 6th in the league in pass defense despite having no Eric Berry back there and a passrusher like Justin Houston who wasn't a factor early on. Did you see those games against Rodgers, Big Ben, Brady (without Eric Berry I remember you)? Let's hope Dontari Poe can collapse the pocket regularly, if not this year next year, but I definitly think Dorsey and Jackson are a good part of the reason why this defense might already be elite. I really hope the Chiefs resign Dorsey, he is an underrated player, not a star but real solid. |
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Tying up blockers and stopping the run is not their only job. If this Defense is going to take the next step forward to ELITE status, they have to get more production out of their DE's.
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We'll just agree to disagree on this, either way I think they'll be seen in a different light if Poe pans out.
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I'm not saying there doesn't need to be improvement from both Dorsey and TJ regarding pass rush but we've seen improvement there with good nt play and both players are assending imo. |
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It's clear to me that Dorsey and Jackson's primary job is to stop the run, which they have proved to be great at. I wish they woud give us a bit more passrush but I don't expect it to happen and with the rise of Justin Houston, Allen Bailey and hopefully a decent rookie season by Poe, why are you so concerned by Dorsey and Jackson pass rush? Between Hali, Houston, Bailey, maybe Poe and Berry and Arenas as great DB passrushers, the passrush will be fine my friend, do not worry. |
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Ronnie Hillman and Brock Osweiler haven't signed their contracts and haven't missed a practice either.
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Poe will transform Dorsey and Jackson into everything we evar wanted them to be!
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Dorsey and Jackson combined for a whopping ONE sack the ENTIRE season. That is pathetic. So lets go with what you've dreamed up though. Hali continues to be Hali and gets 12-14 Sacks. Houston Continue where he left off and get 8-10 Sacks. Dorsey and Jackson continue Being Dorsey and Jackson: 1 Sack The DB's rushing the QB thing is a bit of a reach, but we'll go with it. Arenas: 2 Sacks Berry: 2 Sacks Now lets say we get about 10 sacks from everywhere else (which is what we got last year) : That would put us at 34 Sacks on the season. We will have improved from 29th int the league to about 20th. Not good enough. BUT If Dorsey and Jackson do what a good 34 DE would do...Produce 4-5 Sacks each on the season, then we'd be top 10. Or....close to Elite. Point? Dorsey and Jackson producing a combined 1 sack per season isn't going to cut it.
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Thank you Detoxing, that's the kind of point I was trying to make out of my questions. I havn't fealt like they've played good enough especially on passing downs. This year they best be getting at the QB. Poes job is collaps the inside, but he is too young & wet behind the ears to get his technique down to be that effective for his first year so we got to count on Dorsey & T Jack to really get after the QB. We should be constructive critisism for there play on the field imo & not just say that's good enough, it's not.
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