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Regarding the coaching philosophy: certainly much of the criticism of Haley not being able to coach his own game is attributable to Pioli. He either should've complemented Haley's style by bringing in players more suitable to those strategies, or hired a different coach. That said, there is a large responsibility by any head coach to be flexible, to adapt to your team when the team isn't suited to what you'd most like to do. That is a criticism of Haley's stubbornness (which, of course, can be a great character trait in a coach) as much as it is Pioli's personnel management. I really dislike that there is such a divisive and polar mentality in some of these threads. Simply posting what I believe are valid critiques of Haley does not mean I thought he was a poor coach. Likewise, criticisms of Haley are not endorsements of Pioli. Were I to choose, I'd much rather Haley here right now than Pioli; I just wish we wouldn't deify Haley as a world-beater when there were many problems he caused that led to our current situation (like, if he were less stubborn, we likely wouldn't have Romeo goddamn Crennel as our coach right now).
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There was method to Haley's madness. He had flaws, no question ... but he was learning on the job and his strengths far outweighed his weaknesses. Eventually, Haley will be a very fine head coach somewhere ... it just won't be with the Chiefs.
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For one, yeah. Much of Haley's offense was co-opted by Weiss, and it's unfair to say that either was responsible for the success we saw in 2010, although the evidence would weigh in favor of Weiss given what we saw in 2011. Even so, let's say it was Haley's scheme... it arguably worked to an extent, as defenses had to respect (however little) the long ball. Once other teams saw that Cassel provided absolutely no threat to go long, defenses adjusted and started cheating towards the runs and slants. Now, credit there goes to Haley for forcing the teams to respect the pass; criticism for him is also warranted, as he essentially showed his hand in demonstrating the lack of ability from Cassel. Again, that is far more on Pioli (having signed Cassel) than Haley; but Haley's refusal to adjust to make Cassel's passing seem better (calling more midrange passes) ended up hurting this team in the long-run. Again, this is not a huge criticism of Haley, but it is an example of his unwillingness to change his philosophy based on the players he had.
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The only real issue I have/had with Haley was Dexter. That was his guy.
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He tried to "revolutionize" the game. He was so full of himself and that was part of his major downfall. It was the three man playcalling system and the cardio training camp. There are reasons every team in the league does some things the same way. There wasn't always a method to his madness.
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In what? Passing rating? Is it just me or did Haley make the most explosive offense in the NFL non explosive? You don't pigeon hole a guy like Rothlesberger imo. I think it will bite him in the ass.
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You are not gay unless it moves when you think of Haley.
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Actually, Haley's philosphy of short/intermediate throws works quite well with the personnel that Pitt has. They have 2 guys in Brown and Wallace who are absolutely fantastic in making YAC.
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