The Raiders have a Gruden problem

[Indian Chief]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

He was average before. Been out 20 years . Getting rid of his weapons to make a point that he's boss. I'm liken it.

Raiders will continue to battle Denver for the #1 draft pick.

It's been more like 10 years, but I understand your point. I think the key is what you opened with, the guy was a slightly above average coach to start with. His time on MNF has given people a more positive view of him.

[Bowser]

This move was made to sell luxury boxes and PSL's in the new Vegas stadium first and foremost. Let's see what kind of draft he puts together before we discount him completely.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Bowser

This move was made to sell luxury boxes and PSL's in the new Vegas stadium first and foremost. Let's see what kind of draft he puts together before we discount him completely.

That's the problem. "Let's see what kind of draft he has."

Why does he get a draft? The Raiders have Reggie McKenzie, who DIDN'T take a 20 year break from the NFL.

[ToxSocks]

I think it's gone as well as any Chiefs fan could have hoped up to this point.

The article is pretty spot on. Personally, i don't think the Raiders will ever make the playoffs under Gruden.

[Shaid]

Way too early for an article like this. I definitely think Gruden being out a while and being on TV/having the QB camp, etc. have upped his "legend" status. That's what the contract is about. They got sold on the bling. I'm hoping for a crash and burn but who knows.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Meh. The jury is still out.

While Raiders fans can argue that the team hasn't gotten much worse, they certainly haven't gotten any better (personnel wise) since Gruden took over.

But he still has the draft and maybe some cap casualties from other teams to scoop up, so I'll wait and see how the rest of the off-season plays out . . . . .

[Hydrae]

It seems like Gruden forgets that time is about to pass some of these guys by. He keeps getting guys that were great...a few years ago. The Chiefs are getting younger, the Raiders are getting older. I like our approach much, much better.

[rtmike]

Originally Posted by Hydrae

It seems like Gruden forgets that time is about to pass some of these guys by. He keeps getting guys that were great...a few years ago. The Chiefs are getting younger, the Raiders are getting older. I like our approach much, much better.

If I’m not mistaken, that’s ALWAYS been the Fades mo. They’ve always seemed to favor guys on their 3rd or 4th contract regardless of who’s coaching?







This is reminding me more and more of ol’ Chip and his destruction of teams.

[rico]

The Raiders are gonna be like The Little Giants!!! I hope they don’t try to run the “Annexation of Puerto Rico” against us!!!

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...gruden-problem
It’s important to remember that Jon Gruden, Oakland’s $100 million retread of a head coach, wasn’t hired to make personnel decisions. Those duties, at least in theory, should fall in the hands of long-time GM Reggie McKenzie. But in looking at Oakland’s offseason transformation, it would be naïve to think McKenzie is running the show. Gruden’s fingerprints are all over the Raiders’ new roster and that’s a problem.

Giving full roster control—and $100 million—to an average-at-best coach who hasn’t been behind an NFL sideline in a literal decade seems like a reckless misstep for a team that looked like it was finally onto something after making the playoffs in 2016. But here we are, living in Gruden’s warped football dystopia, where long-snappers and converted fullbacks reign supreme.

The AFC West will ours for years & years.

[RustShack]

The Raiders were also the only team to ask Iowa States All-American LB to work out at FB during their Pro Day.

[MahiMike]

That was hilarious.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I would say being a NFL Head Coach is a really ,really demanding job. And even though he knows what it entails, he's had a good gig for some time and this will wear on him REALLY fast.

What are the chances he just wanted a free spot in Vegas ??

[lawrenceRaider]

Remember, we had JDR as our coach. So even if Gruden is JAG, its a huge upgrade over what we had.

[jjchieffan]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Remember, we had JDR as our coach. So even if Gruden is JAG, its a huge upgrade over what we had.

Hard to argue with that. JDR was awful. I was kinda hoping that he would be kept around another year or two. But the Donks kept their inept coach. I guess that hoping for 2 division rivals to do that was asking too much.